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Sole protectors or dainite?

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I have the Allen Edmonds Hopkinson last 201. They fit perfect and comfortable compared to other AE shoes I tried, but of course, they are leather soles and this leather seems more slippery than the leather soles on Parks probably cause is a different leather quality. I'm torn between just getting a sole protector or having them resoled to dainite.

The sole protector may offer a little more grip than dainite but I feel like it may change the feel of shoes as it will slightly lift the front and it will add a bit of extra weight. My concern with resoling to dainite is that it could change the whole fit of the shoe. I read cases of people's shoes not fitting the same after a resole.
 
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You're greatly overthinking this. Just leave them alone and wear them as is. AE's Independence line comes with JR soles, which will do just fine on their own. They are more water resistant than most if not all other leather soles, and unlike Dainite will not send you slipping and sliding on wet linoleum floors. Once they rough up a bit they will not be any more or less slippery than the soles on your PAs.

If you MUST do something though, then go with the protectors. They will not change the height of the shoe, as the cobbler will shave off enough of the JR sole so that the protectors sit flush once he puts them on. Don't go and resole a new shoe, because 1. that's just wasting a brand new set of very high-quality soles, and 2. each resole takes a bit from the soul of a shoe.
 

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You're greatly overthinking this. Just leave them alone and wear them as is. AE's Independence line comes with JR soles, which will do just fine on their own. They are more water resistant than most if not all other leather soles, and unlike Dainite will not send you slipping and sliding on wet linoleum floors. Once they rough up a bit they will not be any more or less slippery than the soles on your PAs.

If you MUST do something though, then go with the protectors. They will not change the height of the shoe, as the cobbler will shave off enough of the JR sole so that the protectors sit flush once he puts them on. Don't go and resole a new shoe, because 1. that's just wasting a brand new set of very high-quality soles, and 2. each resole takes a bit from the soul of a shoe.
I didn’t know they were Jr soles. AE doesn’t advertises this or I don’t see it anywhere, are you sure? When I purposely drag my fit on tile it feels as slippery as the Parks I had.
 

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most leather soles in this tier are jr
 

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How come AE doesn’t advertise it though you would think considering how popular and sought out Jr soles are among the aficionados
 

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How come AE doesn’t advertise it though you would think considering how popular and sought out Jr soles are among the aficionados
I think you greatly overestimate how much the average shoe buyer cares/pays attention to this stuff. I'd be willing to bet my house that less than half of the guys that wear Allen Edmonds shoes know the significance of JR soles, what shell cordovan comes from, and what Horween produces. We're extreme outliers just by virtue of having an account on this message board.
 
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I think you greatly overestimate how much the average shoe buyer cares/pays attention to this stuff. I'd be willing to bet my house that LESS than half of the guys that wear Allen Edmonds shoes know the significance of JR soles,
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How come AE doesn’t advertise it though you would think considering how popular and sought out Jr soles are among the aficionados
Because they are not JR soles.
1. JR soles are clearly marked JR:
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2. The JR soles AE uses come with a "key" heel.
 

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^^^^^
Yeah, I’m pretty sure AE just uses JR’s on their shell shoes and boots. I don’t think the default sole of their Indy line is JR, though my two Indy-line AE’s have excellent leather soles, including my Hopkinsons.
 

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure AE just uses JR’s on their shell shoes and boots. I don’t think the default sole of their Indy line is JR, though my two Indy-line AE’s have excellent leather soles, including my Hopkinsons.
Agreed, here is what they state under their "performance" description which can be found while looking up (I think) any specific pair of footwear:

Performance
  • 360º Bench Welt construction for durability and stability

  • Leather insole
  • CustomCork™ insole naturally molds for a custom fit
  • Two-tone leather sole and combination heel
 
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NM I just checked and it seems the JR soles are now only on the cordovan shoes? My bad. Seems like these are just regular leather soles, only with a nicer heel? Regardless, my suggestion stands. Just wear them and enjoy. They'll wear out when they wear out, and you can worry about resoles then. This stuff is supposed to be fun, not something to stress about.
 

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