Sole leather quality

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by josepidal, Jun 16, 2006.

  1. retronotmetro

    retronotmetro Senior member

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    Resoling Edward Greens is one thing. But how much expertise can it possibly take to attach a piece of rubber to a barely worn heel?

    Are you talking about taps, or topys? And did you start with a combination heel or a full leather one?

    May I gently suggest that next time you want to do ANYTHING to your shoes, you ask here first. It just might save you another "oh, no--I think I'm fucked" thread.
     


  2. Teacher

    Teacher Senior member

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    Yeah, sorry.

    Again, it was a simple attachment of a piece of rubber precisely to protect the heel from wearing out...

    Also, I'm not talking about the sole. If they use a different leather to recreate the heel that they destroyed, is there a big difference in comfort?


    No, not at all. This was a pretty simple question; why no one was able to stay on task is beyond me.

    Your shoes will be just fine. Just have the heels reconstructed with rubber toplifts (the rest of the heel leather will be largely inconsequential) and you're set. Now, go enjoy your shoes.
     


  3. Teacher

    Teacher Senior member

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    it is kind of like ,

    i know some people when trying something new at a restaurant they always order it altered like , extra cheez, or no butter , or etc. to their own taste whims and when they try it they say ," eh, it wasnt that good" when it is known to be good.

    i say try it first the way it is intended to be. then from experience alter it to your taste if it didnt fit, the second time you order it in the future.


    Not at all true. For instance, if I know I hate mushrooms, then ordering a lovely dish loaded with mushrooms ruins it for me. If I simply ask them to leave the mushrooms out, I can have a wonderful experience.
     


  4. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    Not at all true. For instance, if I know I hate mushrooms, then ordering a lovely dish loaded with mushrooms ruins it for me. If I simply ask them to leave the mushrooms out, I can have a wonderful experience.
    How can somebody possibly hate mushrooms? [​IMG]
     


  5. Teacher

    Teacher Senior member

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    How can somebody possibly hate mushrooms? [​IMG]

    Oh man, just the thought of them makes my tongue quiver in rebellion!
     


  6. sho'nuff

    sho'nuff grrrrrrrr!!

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    oh yes, im not talking about allergies or some unique aversion to certain kinds of foods.
    im talking about people's quick whims to stick extra cheez or extra salt on everything without at least trying it first.
    especially here in the land of lack of moderation America.

    anyone see the movie Big Night? There is a scene in the beginning when the italian chef made an authentic dish of seafood risotto and the american customer was wanting a side of spaghetti with it and inquiring why there were no big pieces of scallops in it. the chef was infuriated and was adamant about not serving her spaghetti because she does not understand what risotto is about.
    i love that movie.
     


  7. josepidal

    josepidal Senior member

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  8. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    Jose-

    I realize that you did not ask, but...

    Stop messing up perfectly good shoes!!!

    First you home antiqued those beautiflu Jermyn IIs in to a horror show, now this. Your shoes are very nice. Nice shoes are very durable even in the rain. Stop monkeying with them. You now have two pairs of shoes that are much worse off than they were when they left the factory. Enough is enough!
     


  9. LabelKing

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    Jose-

    I realize that you did not ask, but...

    Stop messing up perfectly good shoes!!!

    First you home antiqued those beautiflu Jermyn IIs in to a horror show, now this. Your shoes are very nice. Nice shoes are very durable even in the rain. Stop monkeying with them. You now have two pairs of shoes that are much worse off than they were when they left the factory. Enough is enough!

    This is clearly evidence of over-caring for something.
     


  10. josepidal

    josepidal Senior member

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    First you home antiqued those beautiflu Jermyn IIs in to a horror show, now this. Your shoes are very nice. Nice shoes are very durable even in the rain. Stop monkeying with them. You now have two pairs of shoes that are much worse off than they were when they left the factory. Enough is enough!
    For the love of god, you've been instructed to view the photos of the "horror show" ten gazillion times and you haven't so quit bitching about them.

    Anyway, nice shoes are very durable even in the rain, but even nice soles are going to wear out quickly in not-so-well maintained Manila sidewalks and in an office where several floors are undergoing renovation. The topys on the soles themselves were actually a bigger help than captain obvious.
     


  11. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    I did view them and I still think they look significantly worse than they did stock.

    Have you ever seen London sidewalks? Those are bad.
     


  12. retronotmetro

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    I didn't ask them to replace the toplifts with rubber. I'm talking about what you call topys, rubber protectors against wear on the sole and heel.

    I had them placed on the shoes because it's typhoon season over here.


    I figured you were talking about Topys. I can easily see an inexperienced or simply bad cobbler doing what you describe. You need to grind down the sole in order to install a Topy, and if you are too aggressive with the grinder, problems will result. Next time, put taps on the heels. Don't screw around with Topys onto a good pair of leather soles unless you have a really good cobbler who has proven his skill to your satisfaction. If you insist on having rubber soles, send the shoes back to the factory and have Thames rubber soles put on.
     


  13. josepidal

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    Yeah. I was actually confident since this shop did the topys right the first time. The only problem is that the one originally put was thin and proved relatively useless as a protector since the back wore out pretty quickly.

    Anyway, in short, I guess I learned the hard way there are no truly competent tailors and cobblers in my entire country. I'm sore about those Malverns because Hilary Freeman sent full-length sockliners for them, but no one can figure out how to replace the foam cushioning for your ankle after taking out the old half sock.
     


  14. acidboy

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    Anyway, in short, I guess I learned the hard way there are no truly competent tailors and cobblers in my entire country.

    no, not in the same level as one might expect as a forum member.
     


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    Are there not cobblers, and tailors with experience left over from the Spanish/American days?
     


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