Long time lurker, first time poster. I've been buying lower-medium high end shoes and been disappointed by some of them. What some people describe as very soft leather to me feel very hard. I need some help in my continuing search for comfortable shoes I can wear. I guess it's best to start with what I have It all started with a pair of santoni loafers. They were very comfortable. Very soft leather (free) Then I moved onto Bruno Magli lace-ups oxfords. Rubber sole's(given for free). Pretty soft leather. I ordered a pair of Ferragamo Studio's which were also very soft. I returned them when I started doing research(glued) and found this forum. I bought a pair of Sutor Mantellasi's wingtips from Shop the finest. Buttery soft does not even describe how soft they are. I love these. I then got a pair of Ferragamo Tramezza's captoe brogue. These were almost as hard as a pair of Santoni Classico's. I haven't really broken them in yet but very surprised at how hard they start out. Everyone says they are their most comfortable shoes. They fit me but the leather is hard to me. I then got a pair of Martegani's brogues which are softer than the Ferragamo's but no where near the Sutor's. Pretty happy with them still. They were cheap though, so I really can't complain. Again, people online said they are really soft. Today I got Gravati captoes which are very soft. Almost near Sutor's softness and better than martegani's and Ferragamo's. I also got another pair of Sutor's(from virtualclotheshorse) but captoes since I loved mine so much. This is the confusing part - they are not that soft. Sorry for the long post. Is it a breaking in problem? Eventually they'll get soft? I want to keep buying shoes but I am very disappointed in how these shoe's turned out. The newest pair of Sutor's I got today, I might return because I was expecting very supple leather. I seriously doubt it, but do captoe's use harder leather than others? Thoughts, opinions? Do I have unrealistic expectations? Any other brands I should be trying? Thanks for the help.