Please bear with me... Here is a discussion of the Trad Jean: http://www.longsufferingtrad.com/?p=105 Check the comments section and the discussion moves on to fabrics and cut. Now I'm not suggesting that this is earth shattering stuff, but I do see a gap in the perception of Jeans depending on their fabric. Denim Jeans are probably not for our AAAT brothers, but when the same cut of trousers is offered in Corduroy, Moleskin or Twill I wonder if they could be seen as a good companion to those other Tradly wardrobe staples. For me Jeans mean Denim. But when I wear the same style of Jeans cut in another fabric I regard them as something else. A kind of interim step between casual & smart casual. Any thoughts? How do you view non-Denim Jeans? Best - J.