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so I'm moving to Sydney... where to shop??

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by medtech_expat, Mar 21, 2006.

  1. medtech_expat

    medtech_expat Senior member

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    I was offered a promotion yesterday to head up our marketing group for Australia & New Zealand. It appears to be an ideal next step, career-wise, and living in Sydney is ironically just the icing on the cake. [​IMG]

    I have several days to consider the offer, so I thought I'd ask you guys for input on Sydney. Specifically:

    1. I've heard that people are pretty relaxed when it comes to dress. How would Sydney compare with San Francisco, New York or London? Is this the land of shorts, khakis and t-shirts? Should I postpone further suit purchases?

    2. How's the shopping? Any suggestions or hidden gems?

    3. Any neighborhood suggestions for where I should house-hunt? Our offices are in Baulkham Hills, which appears to be about 30 miles from the harbor. I'm 32, single and have a flexible budget.
    Thanks to everyone in advance for the input. This is more or less a done deal, and the only downside is that I'll be moving from winter in Brussels directly into winter in Sydney. [​IMG]
     
  2. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Senior member

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    Got yourself transported, eh?
     
  3. Duveen

    Duveen Senior member

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    Congrats! Don't know anything about Sydney, other than that I'd like to be sent there to head a division....
     
  4. aportnoy

    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Way to go E! Congrats.[​IMG]
     
  5. thinman

    thinman Senior member

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    Congratulations! Winter in Sydney will be mild, with some rain, but probably nothing like what you're used to. I visited Sydney nearly ten years ago and the city seemed very casual, but I visited the tourist areas, so you should look to the natives for advice. I did find the Australians very friendly and sports-crazed. I envy you. Enjoy!!
     
  6. Millerp

    Millerp Senior member

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    Congratulations

    Only visited as a tourist, but some of the nicest neighborhoods in which to live
    seem to be in the northern suburbs - Neutral Bay, Mosman,
    Cremorne and environs. If you like to be near water, Balmoral is nice.
    If you have lots of money, Double Bay has beautiful homes.

    People seem to dress as they do in Southern California.
    You see shirts and ties, but often no jackets during lunch
    hour downtown in summer.

    It's a great city.
     
  7. Aqua

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    Sydney is quite humid and the Summers are, at times, unbearable. The Winters aare plesant and only cold if your near the harbour. Sydney has a lot of centralised shopping, ie shopping centres or malls (as you American's call them), beside the CBD. Depending upon your work environment, dress is open collar and more casual, aside from the more traditional roles... but better check with your office's protocol.

    Most Syndey siders, if they have the time and money, will travel to Melbourne to shop, as most of the niche boutiques are located there. Melbourne generally consist of Strip shopping (streets) and it is known as the Fashion Capital of Australia. I live in Melbourne and until last week, flew to Sydney on a regular basis (1 every 2 weeks).

    I would say Sydney has a New York feel to it, whilst Melbourne is more European (cafe Society).

    Drop me an email when you have time. Happy to expand and advise.
    Good Luck

    Jas
     
  8. whoopee

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    Australia & NZ are great (big fan of the latter), but the good clothing is quite a bit rarer than in the SF-Brussels circuit (is that what you were doing before?) and all in between.

    Sydney is comparable to SF in terms of dress.
     
  9. LabelKing

    LabelKing Senior member

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    Doesn't Ronny live there?
     
  10. whoopee

    whoopee Senior member

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    I'm sure he doesn't. Adelaide I think.
     
  11. The False Prophet

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    Aqua is quite correct, Melbourne is a good deal better. There are a few decent spots in Sydney, however. Herringbone in Woolahra will do MTM and quasi-bespoke shirts for prices that are less ridiculous, and at a better quality, than in Melbourne. They do a slightly tamer Jermyn St styling.

    There's a bespoke suitmaker called John Cutler who is excellent, but expensive. And, a number of others who are less of both.

    The older arcades like the Strand and the Queen Victoria Building tend to have interesting shops, if you're a writing enthusiast, visit Pen-Ultimate in the latter building, you won't be disappointed.

    All the best,

    Eden
     
  12. Aus_MD

    Aus_MD Senior member

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    Doesn't Ronny live there?

    No, he is another of Melbourne's attractions.

    Medtech_expat, I shall answer your questions later today.

    Aus_MD
     
  13. Teacher

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    No, he is another of Melbourne's attractions.

    Medtech_expat, I shall answer your questions later today.

    Aus_MD


    Do you visit him for some urine samples?[​IMG]
     
  14. Aus_MD

    Aus_MD Senior member

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    Do you visit him for some urine samples?[​IMG]

    He claims that he consumes it all himself.

    Aus_MD
     
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    Gaha?
     
  16. Aus_MD

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    Medtech_expat,

    Congratulations on your promotion.

    Sydney is indeed the land of khakis, shorts and flipflops - but not in your new postion. You will be expected to wear a suit. I have reasonable exposure to people in similar roles to yours, in the pharmaceutical industry, and with no exceptions they wear suits (some are black[​IMG] ). Postpone overcoat purchases, but stock up on suits if you buy MTM or RTW. Shoes are more expensive, and are limited in range (and sizes) compared with Europe.

    A small selection of shops:

    Harrolds in Martin Place have Brioni MTM, Kiton, Artioli shoes.

    Henry Bucks O'Connell St is the home to John Cutler Bespoke Tailor, Australia's best bespoke tailor. H Bucks also stocks Pantharella socks, Drake and Steffano Ricci ties, and Canali.

    Varino, in Chatswood, has close-outs on Borelli, Zegna and Stefano Ricci ties for around USD70.

    Rochefort make and sell ties. Clint from AAAC is based there, but I don't know much about his work.

    As far as housing, I would strongly advise that you take an apartment in central Sydney, for 6 months or so until you get the lie of the land. You will be able to familiarize yourself with the city, and work out where you want to live. Baulkham hills is about 30 - 50 minute commute from the more desirable suburbs, but the CBD is a similar distance. Please PM me if you want more information.

    Aus_MD
     
  17. The False Prophet

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    Gaha?

    Not quite, I'm afraid. Less in television, more in the law.

    I'm nearly as amused though as the time I was mistaken for a relative of Sir Anthony (the British PM, later the Viscount Eden).
     
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    I have a very nice shirt from Herringbone, which I acquired in NYC. Shirt is Australian made of good Italian cloth.
     
  19. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Senior member

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    Medtech_expat,

    Congratulations on your promotion.

    Sydney is indeed the land of khakis, shorts and flipflops - but not in your new postion. You will be expected to wear a suit. I have reasonable exposure to people in similar roles to yours, in the pharmaceutical industry, and with no exceptions they wear suits (some are black[​IMG] ). Postpone overcoat purchases, but stock up on suits if you buy MTM or RTW. Shoes are more expensive, and are limited in range (and sizes) compared with Europe.

    A small selection of shops:

    Harrolds in Martin Place have Brioni MTM, Kiton, Artioli shoes.

    Henry Bucks O'Connell St is the home to John Cutler Bespoke Tailor, Australia's best bespoke tailor. H Bucks also stocks Pantharella socks, Drake and Steffano Ricci ties, and Canali.

    Varino, in Chatswood, has close-outs on Borelli, Zegna and Stefano Ricci ties for around USD70.

    Rochefort make and sell ties. Clint from AAAC is based there, but I don't know much about his work.


    I traveled there last year for vacation from New York. I think that Syndey-siders tend to spend quite a bit more on having a home near the beach, traveling, and food than they do on clothing or other consumer items. Bottom line was that the shopping was fair, but nothing special. I'd compare the city to San Francisco in this way. You can find nice things, but for the most part the citizens do not prioritize shopping or clothing and, as a result, it's secondary. Fair enough, since the food, scenery, outdoor life is spectacular.

    These are very good tips, by the way. I visited Harrolds and Rochefort, as well as another very good store in Double Bay. Harrolds is like a rather small Barneys. Good stuff, but nothing great. You can find what they have in North America at better prices. But for standby things -- say you need a new RTW suit -- I'd say it's probably the best spot in the CBD.

    Rochefort is run by Shane Rochefort, who's a very nice young guy who likes his clothing. His place is hard to find and tiny, but worth it. Shane's stock in trade are beautiful, hand-made, individually designed and pricey ties, but he's also affiliated with good tailors. It was the only great unique thing I found in Sydney and worth stopping in to introduce your self. I really liked Rochefort.

    Finally, there's a small and very expensive store in Double Bay that sells high end Italian sportswear (Avon Celli and the like). I cannot remember the name, but I think it might be in Time Out. More expensive than Ian or Lance, but about what you'd pay at expensive American spots. If you want a super cool $800 sweater, it's probably the best spot to find that. This neighborhood is trust fund country, so the store reflects that.

    Final word, as long as you look decently professional you'll do fine. I wouldn't hesitate to send a well-dressed American there. Given that it's warm (they wear gloves and scarves at about 60 degrees), bring lots of summer clothes. They tend to have a lot of British influence, but not so much that it feels stuffy. This is t-shirt and jeans country - think Southern California.

    What a great chance for you, by the way. Great part of the world to really explore for a year. By the way, eating is great in Sydney. Try Billy Kwong, Sean's Panaroma, Oh Calcutta, Longgrain and Rockfish. They take eating seriously there.
     
  20. medtech_expat

    medtech_expat Senior member

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    Melbourne generally consist of Strip shopping (streets) and it is known as the Fashion Capital of Australia. I would say Sydney has a New York feel to it, whilst Melbourne is more European (cafe Society).

    Thanks for anchoring to familiar references, Jas. I imagine that I'll be in Melbourne at least a few times per month and will definitely take the opportunity to explore!
     

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