Are you trying to dress like an adolescent boy?
Not really my cup of tea. I'd prefer women.
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Are you trying to dress like an adolescent boy?
Not really my cup of tea. I'd prefer women.
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Might need to swap to a skirt to look more adolescent.
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Yea, athletic socks with your hand welted shoes...I'm all out of shaving cream, so I don't think I can pull off the skirt look.
Also, not into wearing athletic socks with dress shoes. Do you think me a boor?
Yea, athletic socks with your hand welted shoes...
I meant glued, sneakers are glued, not hand welted...
Everyone knows that.
You misconstrued my point about women. I will take your non-malicious intent here serious.
It is not that I like women who "dress like little boys". In fact, I don't generally like androgenous looks on women at all. There are exceptions, of course, but I don't dig that look. But if someone IS to dress masculinely, they can pull it off if they look like an adolescent boy. It's the pederasty look that has been common in art for thousands of years. It can look suitable. I can aesthetically say "okay, she doesn't look terrible" in a detached ways.
It's not -my- sexual preference or aesthetic preference to like adolescent boy looks. It's not what I personally like.
My sexual or aesthetic preference is the cute girls I pointed out. That's how I like women to dress in a normal context. If I wanted to go out with a woman on a date in a low to medium formality setting, I'd want her to look like that. I also think they look objectively good, but that is very much a personal preference.
I also like Goth chicks, but that is neither here nor there. (Thanks, Elvira!)
You keep on forgetting the antecedent to this conditional. "If you want to dress masculinely". The looks that pull this off are those which I have written about over the last few hours, as I judge female aesthetics.
I will leave aside the idea of whether or not women like to dress for men. That's a whole other debate. We could probably go for another 4-5 hours (if not longer) on that one.
As for limitation of female styles: You have forgotten that the antecedent of the conditional limits the focus.
I am not saying the only option for girls is to look cute or boyish. I am saying that only of masculine-focused looks.
Girls can also dress sexy, they can dress cool, they can dress elegantly, they can dress dramatically, etc. In fact, I do agree with you: women have a more varied set of looks for men, especially as they can often do these in settings men can't, or shouldn't, do so.
I have zero clue what you are talking about.
I'm glad I've managed to live rent free in your head all this time, even after the switch in accounts.
I kind of dig the BC drawstring casual suit look and I’m not sure how to feel about liking it. May have to add one and see if it actually works but at first glance I think I prefer it to the shacket/field jacket look that’s in for a summer look.Why does every new CM thread become rabbit hole these days, would I wear suit with sneaker?
yea, casual suit for sure (brown linen, green linen, or even black linen), with CP type of minimalist white sneaker, or say cotton chino, sport coat with GAT. Can go the BC Italian atheleisure route as well, though less so for myself
I kind of dig the BC drawstring casual suit look and I’m not sure how to feel about liking it. May have to add one and see if it actually works but at first glance I think I prefer it to the shacket/field jacket look that’s in for a summer look.
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for FW I think this could work with some sneakers as well
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I know we're beating a dead horse at this point, but just wanted to add that I recognize you're only talking about women in menswear. I also recognize that some of these looks can come off as "cute." Or they can come off as "butch." But I also think there are other expressions -- cool, elegant, rugged, hippie, or whatever. The expression may not directly be about the singular focus of gender (which you've coded as cute = feminine, butch = the negation of femininity). These expressions may be layered on top of the gender expression. So a woman may look androgynous, feminine, or masculine, and on top of that cool, elegant, or whatever.
Some of the terms you used to describe the looks I posted earlier are imprecise. Such as you calling some looks frumpy. That just seems to be "I can't make sense of this look." But I think that springs more out of a lack of familiarity with this subject.
A woman who's unfamiliar with menswear may view the styles posted on this board in the same limited terms. I remember a poster on here who insisted that women read the outfits posted on this board as frumpy and "old man-ish." I'm talking about the types of outfits that Iammatt and Vox used to post. Another poster told me that his wife vetoed a Balmacaan coat because she also felt it was old mannish. Which, fair enough -- her view is her view, and if you live with someone, you should also try to get along. But to people on this board, things such as tweed sport coats and balmacaan coats register as elegant, tasteful, and masculine.
It's hard to talk about this on this board in concrete terms because
1) I feel weird posting photos of actual, real-life women on this side of the board so that a bunch of nerds (including me) can say whether she looks cute or butch
2) I then resort to posting photos of models or famous people. But because of how media is orientated, many of these women will be small and thin.
I can only say that, when I step out into the world and see real-life, well-dressed women in menswear, they don't read as "cute" or "butch" to me. I feel like this should be most obvious for the suit -- historically a men's garment. A woman putting on a suit doesn't necessarily look cute or butch, she may just look professional.
Other looks were confusing, like bathrobe lady.