I tried on a pair of PF Flyer Center HI's while in LA and really liked them. The burgundy and grey in leather are NICE!! I really like how those look. In low the toe looks a bit clunky to me but for some reason the high has a great balance. Met another guy who wears Chucks as a biz casual shoe. Beat black Chucks. He says black Chucks have been his go to shoes since the 60's and I believe him.