Right now, where I'm working, the place is really casual. And, my position is near the bottom of the totem pole. I've heard that you should dress for the job you want, not the job you have. However, my boss dresses very casual. And, even, the VPs dress pretty casual. I've never seen anybody wear a suit here. So dressing in a suit would just come off as pretentious and ridiculous. And, nobody wears a tie either. Just by wearing a dress shirt, I'm aleady dressing better than most of my coworkers. My dilema is how to dress casual like everybody else, but still come off as somewhat professional and dressy. Right now, I wear dress shirts, with the top two buttons undone on the dress shirt to give a layered look, while wearing a white crew undershirt underneath. But, it seems that this look wasn't highly thought of on this forum. Does anybody have any suggestions for trying to pull a casual smart look in the office? I'm thinking of wearing french cuffs with silk knots, even though I'm not wearing a suit. And, are my Allen Edmonds Park Avenue captoe shoes too formal to wear with just a dress shirt and pants?