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sloane ranger vs. preppy

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by esquire., Apr 7, 2005.

  1. esquire.

    esquire. Senior member

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    Since they're both basically the same socioeconomic class, I was wondering if their style of dress were more or less the same?
     


  2. RJman

    RJman Posse Member Dubiously Honored

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    No. You could write a dissertation on the semiotics of the differences.
     


  3. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Aren't Sloane Rangers necessarily women? Can a dude really be a Sloane Ranger? We need a true Brit to help us out, I think.
     


  4. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Princess Diana was the iconic example, but based on a close reading of the Sloane Ranger Handbook-- published not too long after The Preppy Handbook in the 80s-- about half of all Sloanies are indeed men.
     


  5. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Did Manton really use the word "dude" in a non-facetious manner? Is he trying to subtly change his image? No disrespect. Just wondering... [​IMG]
     


  6. Andrew V.

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    Here is an interesting excerpt about Camilla, Diana, and other Sloane Rangers from an article at http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/11332407.htm Gloucestershire is a well-heeled corner of the English countryside, dotted with forests, abbeys and stately manors. Parker Bowles, whose grandfather was the third baron of Ashcombe, grew up on a country estate in Sussex in southern England. Rich and well-bred Britons traditionally have been brought up in the country, not the city, on land handed down from their ancestors. This type of English countrywoman values looking ``practical and tidy'' above all else, Higginson said. That's because she often has more important things on her mind than what's in Vogue this month: caring for her horses, gardening or taking her dogs for a walk. Such women are often great animal lovers, Higginson said: ``Their Labradors and their horses are up there with their husband and their children in their affections.'' Parker Bowles' style is really a grown-up version of the ``Sloaney pony,'' said Jess Andrews, fashion editor of Tatler, the British magazine dedicated to the lifestyle of the upper classes. The term refers to Sloane Square, the West London neighborhood where members of country society often move after graduating from a good university and before getting married and moving back to the country. The look, which was documented by the early 1980s publication of The Sloane Ranger Handbook, features corduroy trousers, polo shirts and blazers for men, and pearls, sweater sets and tweed skirts for women. Understatement, in both fashion and attitude, is key. It's a look that Diana, who was from a similarly aristocratic background, embraced before her marriage, but traded in for designer gowns from Milan and Paris. There's no direct comparison to Parker Bowles and her ilk in the United States. Growing up and growing older with money in America usually translates into a perfectly coiffed, well-toned and ultra-groomed appearance. Think of the older models in a Ralph Lauren ad. Even in Britain, Parker Bowles may be one of a thinning breed. The Sloaney pony look is on the wane. The younger crowd of London-living aristocratic women are, Andrews said, ``more trendy, with short skirts and slouchy boots and bangles and messy blond hair.'' Think of Kate Moss and friends in those Burberry ads.
     


  7. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    But the term originated much earlier than the book, correct? If I remember rightly, it was a term of abuse coined by some acid-tongued British journo-critic to denounce a type of young woman that he despised. Even the book -- as I recall it, not having picked it up in years -- focuses much more on women, and sort of treats the men as consorts or accessories.
     


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    I think that the stereotype may in fact be a woman, but the concept applies to men and women equally, in the philosophy behind it (off the top of my head, thrift, flamboyent weekend wear and conservative week wear, outdoorsyness, wearing clothing and accessories from your ancestors etc) are very similar, the looks are very different
     


  9. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Well, you guys would know ...
     


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    I basically agree with Globetrotter. As he points out, the Sloane look is a mix of conservatism, flamboyance, country clothes (worn in the country or in town), etc. The theory is fairly close to American trad/preppy, but the execution looks quite different. There are significant overlaps in style -- for example, Nantucket Reds vs. red moleskins -- but the details are completely different and the overall look differs quite dramatically. I don't think it's a matter of male vs. female.
     


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    AlanC Minister of Trad

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    Any equine related term conjoined with Ms. Parker Bowles in any context is, um, unfortunate.
     


  12. Andrew V.

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    *rolls eyes at AlanC*
     


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    Wait, I don't get it.... She is a horse, after all? I had always guessed as much... [​IMG]
     


  14. esquire.

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    Was the Sloane Ranger Handbook a ripoff of the Preppy Handbook? I've never read the Sloane one, but it sounds like the same book.

    And, which came first, the preppy revival in the 80s or the Preppy Handobook?

    Can somebody post any pictures showing the two side by side.
     


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    Bradford Current Events Moderator

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    Boy - I hadn't heard the term Sloane Ranger in quite a while.

    As to which came first, I would say that "The Official Preppy Handbook" actually sparked the preppy revival of the 80's.

    The book came out in 1980, I believe, and really began the backlash to the disco-era styles of the late 70's.

    I still have a copy of the book at home and it's fun to look through from time to time.
     


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