I wanted to try on some dockers so I could order next time there was a big online discount. Wanted to try the D1 and D2. Turns out the water tower Macys must only have fat dudes shopping there...was very hard to find anything to try on in a 34 inseam (the waist sizes were all accounted for...but there was a serious quantity of things with sizes like 36x30). Found one 34x34 D2 and thought the fit was unremarkable. Tried a 34x32 D1 and while it was wader-length, I thought the leg shape looked good but it was too tight in the waist/thighs. Finally found a 36x34 D1 in an ugly color and it was better in the thighs and leg length but the waist was all floppy... The right option for me might be to get a 36x34 and take in the waist...but that seems silly on a pair of dockers that I will by on discount for like $25 (and it might end up with some diaper-butt action after the alterations).