Skyfall 007 2012 (Teaser trailer out)

[El Argentino]

Personally thought it was great.

Final scenes made me think of "Home Alone: Secret Agent Version."

Did drag a bit much by the end. Too many climaxes...

Did appreciate the shakeup in cast though. I don't think he and Eve ended up doing it post-shave. That's just not in

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Moneypenny's

character, right?

Also, Marion Cotillard much hotter on screen than the promo shots previously in the thread.

 

[Texasmade]



Also, Marion Cotillard much hotter on screen than the promo shots previously in the thread.

She was in Skyfall?

 

[El Argentino]

Whoops no - my fault.

Bérénice Marlohe. Had just been rereading in the TDKR thread and got wires crossed.

 

[HRoi]



I don't get this criticism. The Craig movies are a reboot of the franchise that are intentionally different from everything that came before. Skyfall was perfectly consistent with what we saw in Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace.

I'm not even sure I meant it as criticism. The Craig Bond is a different (edgier?) Bond, but you can see the same basic character. In skyfall he doesn't have any of the glamor, accoutrements and women, or at least they are de-emphasized and the women especially seem like window dressing. There is no megalomaniacal villain or optional interesting sidekick (his motivation is to kill M in the weirdest way possible?). The Bardem character is great but not very well developed - it seemed to me that he was introduced way too late. And lol at the final scenes being "Home Alone" but that sums it up perfectly.

I still enjoyed the movie, but it wasn't even as "Bond" as CR. the ending scene did leave me with the feeling of "alright, they finished up all the reboot/character building ****, now he'll settle into being the current Bond"

 

[Anthony K]



...
Did appreciate the shakeup in cast though. I don't think he and Eve ended up doing it post-shave. That's just not in

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Moneypenny's

character, right?

I don't they ended up doing it either. "I'm sure we'll have many close shaves."

Whoops no - my fault.
Bérénice Marlohe. Had just been rereading in the TDKR thread and got wires crossed.

God she was gorgeous!

 

[grundletaint]

I thought Craig was better in casino royale. To be honest, I don't remember QoS much but I don't remember him being as "charming" in either of those and I don't think Craig pulls it off effectively. He lacks the subversive quality the character needs. He delivered the lines, but they didn't seem to have that dryness that should come with them.

If they're going to go back towards that kind of 007, they need to bring a British feel back to the films. This one was just too Americanized and lacked the feeling a bond film should bring. It seemed gratuitous and forced in many parts. When everyone whooped and clapped when the Aston came out, I nearly walked out due to how damn cheesy the whole situation was.

Bardem played his part extremely well but they did a horrible job giving the audience any reason to really understand WTF he was so pissed about. I think a little more depth was needed in his situation. It was just too cartoony. I also hoped for a little more clarity on what the breadcrumbs were and if they're gonna drop the gadgets, it's pretty much going to end up like a damn Bourne movie so I hope they reconsider that and give him some cool **** to play with.

 

[El Argentino]

I thought this one was very British in comparison to previous outings. Having the 2nd half of the film based in the UK helped a lot. The occasional english slang (bugger was even in there), etc. Copious amounts of Union Jacks, etc. I appreciated the toned down villian, focusing his issues on locally on M rather than trying to control the world from an Ice Castle.

 

[b1os]

I agree with grundletaint -- the motives of Bardem weren't very clear.

 

[HRoi]

except for wanting Bond's cock

 

[El Argentino]

Yeah, kind of quivered at that whole exchange.

"Who says it'd be my first time?"

 

[Texasmade]



except for wanting Bond's cock

and it wasn't the first time either

 

[grundletaint]



I thought this one was very British in comparison to previous outings. Having the 2nd half of the film based in the UK helped a lot. The occasional english slang (bugger was even in there), etc. Copious amounts of Union Jacks, etc. I appreciated the toned down villian, focusing his issues on locally on M rather than trying to control the world from an Ice Castle.

Yeah England was there but the British feel of the film wasn't. It's like papa john's serving a New York style pizza. Sure, it's a pizza and the cheese and **** is on there, but you can tell it isn't real New York pizza. It's kind of like how Woody Allen can make a movie feel New York-ish more than plenty of other movies filmed there. Not sure why I'm focusing on New York so much, but that's my point.

 

[El Argentino]



Yeah England was there but the British feelof the film wasn't. It's like papa john's serving a New York style pizza. Sure, it's a pizza and the cheese and **** is on there, but you can tell it isn't real New York pizza.

I don't mean this to belittle your point at all - what, then, is a British feel?

 

[grundletaint]

See my edit. I hope that explains what I'm trying to get at. There's just a certain style or delivery that was missing from this one, IMO.

 

[Kai]

Terrific movie.