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If it makes it easier, I'd prefer the 74945 to the 946. The loafer I linked is also on the 74945. The 74945 has a slightly lower instep than the 946 and is a round toe instead of a square toe.

I'd also suggest a 180 degree handwelt (like the loafer I linked) and a black single leather sole. You can see an example of the sole I'm talking about on my gatoraides here:



That being said I'd also be open to a vibram topy on a single leather sole.
Do you mean a 270 degree handwelt? Haven’t heard of 180 before. Is that the Japanese waist thing from a few years back? I would like the waist as tight as can be with rolled edges (is that bombe treatment?) and a fiddleback.

I had been thinking the same model as the current Skoak Color 8 loafer, but in black calf. Croc or Gator strap is an interesting idea and I’d be open to that.
I have a loafer in that model you suggested. I like the look but my issue is a practical one. The vamp goes up high and the angle is such that it catches on my trousers a lot. I also thought the full strap makes the sides feel/look a bit bulky.

I’d prefer the 804 last but could compromise on 74945. I’m not a fan of the 946.

In a perfect world I’d prefer a leather sole. Black sole is completely fine.

Adding @ericgereghty to keep in the loop
 

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I still have not determined if Foster and Sons shoes are 1 or 1/2 size down from US size? Anybody has and idea?
 

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I still have not determined if Foster and Sons shoes are 1 or 1/2 size down from US size? Anybody has and idea?
I have a pair of Keble’s, and was advised by Skoaktiebolaget to go a full size down from my US size. They were right in my case, the fit is spot on.
 

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I have a pair of Keble’s, and was advised by Skoaktiebolaget to go a full size down from my US size. They were right in my case, the fit is spot on.
Thank you. Do you have any other shoe brands, for example how does F&S fits in respect to Carmina last or any other shoe brands.
 

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Do you mean a 270 degree handwelt? Haven’t heard of 180 before. Is that the Japanese waist thing from a few years back? I would like the waist as tight as can be with rolled edges (is that bombe treatment?) and a fiddleback.

I had been thinking the same model as the current Skoak Color 8 loafer, but in black calf. Croc or Gator strap is an interesting idea and I’d be open to that.
I have a loafer in that model you suggested. I like the look but my issue is a practical one. The vamp goes up high and the angle is such that it catches on my trousers a lot. I also thought the full strap makes the sides feel/look a bit bulky.

I’d prefer the 804 last but could compromise on 74945. I’m not a fan of the 946.

In a perfect world I’d prefer a leather sole. Black sole is completely fine.

Adding @ericgereghty to keep in the loop
Black horsebits, like the below would be cool.

 

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Thank you. Do you have any other shoe brands, for example how does F&S fits in respect to Carmina last or any other shoe brands.
For English makers just Crockett & Jones. It depends on the last, but normally half size down. Sometimes same size but one width narrower.

Never tried Carmina. Most of my other experience is just Alden and AE.
 

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For English makers just Crockett & Jones. It depends on the last, but normally half size down. Sometimes same size but one width narrower.

Never tried Carmina. Most of my other experience is just Alden and AE.
Thanks, I appreciate it, I have experience with Alden Barrie and Alden Hampton and Aberdeen. I take Barrie a half size from Hampton and Aberdeen. For Crockett and Jones, I take the same size in 337, 325, 341 and 348. 337 and 348 are my best fitting lasts.
 

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For English makers just Crockett & Jones. It depends on the last, but normally half size down. Sometimes same size but one width narrower.

Never tried Carmina. Most of my other experience is just Alden and AE.
So you take F&S half size bigger than C&J or you take C&J half size down from US?
 

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SkoAB has a pretty big list of their employers' shoe sizes. Super helpful with a list that is extending to brands never even sold at the store.
 

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I found the 05 last to fit quite closely to 74945, but with a lower instep. It is probably a .25 smaller in width than the 74945 but a bit longer.

I can take some pictures to other pairs in the same size later next to L&T S. EB 173, 74945, 556.
Do you take 05 and 74945 in the same size?
 

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