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Skoaktiebolaget – Carmina, John Lobb, Enzo Bonafè, Carlos Santos, Saint Crispin’s, Rubinacci – Offi

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Leaves, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. knappabn

    knappabn Well-Known Member

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    I have two pair of CS boots and three pair of dress shoes, including a split toe and a double monk, and the cap toe. The cap toes I wear a lot, and they're breaking in and wearing nicely. I'd prefer rubber soles, which I do have on the split toes, but they really look like they're going to hold up very well, better than some AE I've had in the past. I think the CS look a bit more substantial, maybe a little bulkier than Carmina, of which I have a few. I think that given the Carmina price increases, and price parity between CS and AE, I'd go CS pretty much every time. Very good value.
     
  2. grunberg

    grunberg Senior member

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    Is somebody interested in GMTO with the following parameters:

    Enzo Bonafe same style and last as on picture but with braided norvegese construction (around shoe, natural colour), laces in the colour of shaft, same material but colour is more like picture # 2 Saint Crispins (more dark and deep brown wood shade), leather sole with half rubber sole (topy, vibram) + may be metal toe tips...


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  3. ThunderMarch

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    Thank you SkoaB.
    This Bolet calf looks tremendous.

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  4. yunBW

    yunBW Well-Known Member

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    My friend bought an double monk in 234 last, he didn't wear that much because it's with his cobbler. He said, the leather really soft and quality is quite similar to Carmina or a bit lower. His feet have less volume, so the last didn't fit him as good as simpson, and rain. He says CS last is a bit more chucky than Carmina. Also, he prefers the heel of CS over Carmina. I think the main markup of Carmina is attention to detail and the close channel sole. Overall, CS is a great brand and I will get my loafer next month.
     
  5. bkotsko

    bkotsko Senior member

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    A little Carmina x Skoak love here.
    These Frankenstitch boots are 2 years old already.
    The shell shines up so well...

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  6. insy

    insy Senior member

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    How do you maintain the shine?

    Here are mine, I made a mistake and took a few walks with them while it was raining a little bit. Especially those white points freaking me out, they make the Boot look dirty and not elegant [​IMG]
    However, I never felt like they were shining even when brand new. Applied Saphir Cordovan Cream but it didn't seem to help much. Do you just brush them for 10 minutes or what's the trick?

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  7. bkotsko

    bkotsko Senior member

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    Generally I follow the basic rules of Shell care.
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/515126/...reviews-sizing-advice-and-photos#post_8251889
    Read the section on care and cleaning.

    For me, the tools I use are listed below (not in any order):

    1. Deer bone
    www.skoaktiebolaget.se/collections/shoe-care/products/abbeyhorn-deer-bone
    2. Saphir Renovateur
    https://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-renovateur.html
    3. Saphir Cordovan Creme (Neutral)
    https://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-cordovan-shoe-polish.html
    4. Brush a lot
    5. Damp Cloth
     
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  8. peppercorn78

    peppercorn78 Senior member

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    I've generally had a tougher time getting a true glossy finish on my Carmina shell than with Alden or AE. Carmina tends to look and feel "drier" in my experience.
     
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  9. Kahuna75

    Kahuna75 Senior member

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    Those spots have stayed that way even after getting dry and brushing etc?
     
  10. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    I had those exact EBs and to be honest I kind of miss them even though the fit of the 946 wasn't the best for me. Aesthetically, they are still my favorite boot from the EB stable.
     
  11. RogerP

    RogerP Senior member

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    This is exactly why I have largely gone off shell, and reserve my existing pairs for fair weather wear only.
     
  12. grunberg

    grunberg Senior member

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    let's try second time ;)))
     
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  13. bkotsko

    bkotsko Senior member

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    I have to agree. They are not do not appear to be glazed the same.
    They generally seem dryer on the surface.
    I have had decent luck in getting them to shine, though.
    I have worn this pair in the rain a few times.
     
  14. budapest12

    budapest12 Senior member

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    Yes, I'm interested. No metal taps though if already has a topy. If no topy, taps are fine. Either is fine with me.
     
  15. grunberg

    grunberg Senior member

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    Ok, two of us... Somebody else?
     
  16. budapest12

    budapest12 Senior member

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    Any flexibility on last? Might get more interest if on 74945 last for example - which I think might look good on this.
     
  17. CanadaCal

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    Looks like a promising makeup. You need a better spec list than your initial description to generate more interest.

    Review the leathers and options, and decide by name what the makeup will be.
     
  18. grunberg

    grunberg Senior member

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    Trully i hope we get people to make it on 946 last... I like the looks very much and i have high instep...

    Do you have picture of 74945?
     
  19. grunberg

    grunberg Senior member

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    It's hard to make as I Don't know all EB leathers...that's why I put SC picture.... This shade is VERY preferable.

    May be Skoak guys can help?
     
  20. grunberg

    grunberg Senior member

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    GMTO

    Details:

    - calf upper/hatchgrained calf shaft
    - 946 chiseled last
    - Norvegese BRAIDED welt around the shoe, stiching in natural colour
    - Natural sole edge
    - Regular width
    - Double leather soles
    - Metal toe taps or topy half rubber sole
    - black metal eyelets
    - leather laces same colour as shaft
    - Colour???? Closest EB colour to picture 2
    - double stiches on toecap and other seams
    - Style - picture # 1

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