Skoaktiebolaget – Carlos Santos, Enzo Bonafé, Saint Crispin’s, Paolo Scafora, Carmina, Rubinacci

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  1. mrjester

    mrjester Senior member

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    I had the same problem as you. I would not size up. Keep the size. If anything, you may size down one half. But I would keep the size the same for the first pair. I will be sizing down in the future.

    Here's what I have/had

    Based my fitting on a great fitting 11.5D US Cole Haan (we all start somewhere, right?)

    Inca - 10.5UK, tons of toe room, a little room on the sides. I thought this fit great until..

    Simpson - 10.5UK - This is how a shoe should fit, for me at least. Same amount of toe room, snug on the sides.

    Uetam - 11UK - Got these before through Skoak and didn't like the shoe and the fit felt a little big. I was terrified to do it but I sent them back and sized down half.

    Uetam 10.5UK - Fits great all around. But since there's room in the toe (which there should always be) and the opening is so large, my foot slides forward a little and the entire shoe slips off. I don't even need shoe trees to put these on.

    Future Plans:

    Uetam 10UK - Will be more snug on the sides but not unreasonable. And the slippage should be mostly gone.

    Rain - 10UK - Sizing down since it's so damn large everywhere, just like the Inca

    Simpson 10.5UK - Since it's not larger and it's not a loafer, sticking with the usual.
     
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    By sizing down, I'm assuming you mean from 8.5 to 8? My current loafer selection is nothing to write home about (Cole Haan's :eh:) in 9.5 US and my feet slide around some.
     


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    Absolutely. I thought Patrik was nuts when he suggested it. "What? Size down from my perfect (fat fitting last) Incas to the slim fitting Uetams? And I sized up, opposite of his advice. Wasted $107+ doing it ($40 shipping, $77 to send back to him).

    I did the best I could to depict the slippage I'm talking about. The Inca is just like the Rain so I'm treating it that way. These are all 10.5UK:




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    Comparison (Simpson - Uetam - Inca)

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    Uetam length vs Inca length (Same, if not more for Inca)

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    Uetam width vs Inca width. Note the height comparison as well. Which is why I'd size down if the Rain/Inca has any room in the sides for you. The toe should always have room.


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    Uetam loafer slippage. My foot slides forward due to the long opening.


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    Inca slippage - Less, but still there.

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    Simpson slippage - best fitting shoe ever. Doesn't rub, doesn't slip.
     
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    Cuttingboard Senior member

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    Thank you so much mrjester...you've been a huge help!!
     
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    mrjester Senior member

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    Any time. And let me know how it works out if you get the Uetams (if you decide to size down 1/2).
     


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    I think I'm going to stick with my current size in the Rain last, 8.5UK instead of sizing up to 9UK. I doubt their going to be too big since their narrower than the Rain last.

    I wish someone in the US carried these loafers!! I would order several different pair.
     
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    Man, this was the best sizing post I've ever seen in a thread regarding Carminas. This was super helpful and very much appreciated.
     




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    Looks like the website is down?
     


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    Nope... not now anyway, have not had any reports of this from other people.
     


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    Leaves, do get back to me when you've found a bit of time for my little interview.
     


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    Hi Ville, absolutely, I'll try and get it sent over before the weekend, have been on a very tight schedule the last couple of weeks, that's all. :D
     


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    FWIW, I think I need to size up on Uetam vs Simpson. Armoury didn't have a 10.5 UK Uetam, and when I tried my normal 10, it was short on me. I may ultimately find that Uetam doesn't work for me at all if in a moment of weakness I buy the laced loafer.
     


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    What Uetam shoe did you have on? My post was on not so much the size difference but the shoe opening. The loafer has a wide opening vs most shoes on the Simpson.

    But if it was a loafer, you may be right and it may not work for you. My next loafer is definitely sized .5 down. It may be too small, but not likely for me. I expect it to be tight on the sides but not unreasonably so. "Snug."

    But feet are feet, no two are the same.
     


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