RogerP - I hear you. I need another derby boot, esp on a leather sole, like, well... it doesn't matter. I'm in on this - it won't be the St. C. but seeing that boot was like finding religion and I am quite confident Bonafe will do great work. Maybe a MTO Bonafe bal boot will be next for me if I don't order those Shannons. It's funny - I thought I'd be ordering loafers as spring approached but I'm just not able to stop with the boots.