Skinny ties: how skinny is too skinny?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mafoofan, May 30, 2008.

  1. mack11211

    mack11211 Senior member

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    Rubinacci ties are not 3.5" as a rule. They vary between 8 ond 9 centimeters depending on the type of silk, the pattern and the construction.

    Personally, I like that range. Perhaps I like 9 cm more than 8 cm right now, but I go back and forth.


    Since you are a bespoke client, I defer to your superior experience, but on the Rubinacci webstore, the woven ties are 9cm/3.5 in, the knits 7cm/2.75 in.
     
  2. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Doc, I love the stitching on the handkerchief in the first picture. Do you have a close up shoot of that?

    That's the only pic I have of it, but I'll try to remember to take a closeup next time I trot it out.
     
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    designprofessor Senior member

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    With the jacket closed, isn't the widest part usually covered at any rate?
     
  4. billiebob

    billiebob Senior member

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    My Hickey Freeman ties are a whopping 4 inches. I like them a lot but they cover most of my shirt!
     
  5. Dragon

    Dragon Senior member

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    I think a skinny tie is going to be unbalanced with your lapels. Maybe you should walk into a RTW store and try some skinny ties before you make your final decision.
     
  6. EL72

    EL72 Senior member

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    3.25 is as skinny as I'd go.

    Me too. 3 1/4"- 3 1/2" is the sweet spot.
     
  7. yachtie

    yachtie Senior member

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    It's driven by the lapel width more than anything else. With 3.75"lapels I wouldn't go narrower than 3.25". Also, max width at the tip is somewhat less important than width below the knot- I like a moderate taper rather than straight sided.
     
  8. Lel

    Lel Senior member

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    I am a smaller guy -- 38R -- and I feel perfectly comfortable wearing a 3-inch tie. Of course, I prefer slimmer lapels, so it matches up. Many of my knits are 2.5 inches.

    Even on my more conservative stuff, I tend to prefer no more than 3.5 inches. For comparison, this tie is 3.5 inches:

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    Here's a 2.5-inch knit:

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    Ties that are 3.75 or larger look huge on me.


    38R? No way. I would have guessed you to be something like 42R, definitely not that small. You do not give off that impression, weird. Maybe that's why I always found your suits very fitted, yet still safe and classic.

    For me, I think 3.25 inches is my max. When I put it on, it looks proportional, same as a bigger sized guy wearing a 3.5 inch tie. However with a tie like 3.5 inches it would look just slightly off, like I walked into JCPenny for my shopping or something.

    I have a very skinny tie that is I think, 1.5 inches and it works fine with my 2.7(?) inch lapel on my TaT suit. However it's very aggressive and it works well with the cut of my suit. 2.5 inches I would classify as narrow, and as long as your lapels are something like 3 inches and sleek I think it would be fine.
     
  9. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    My most narrow ties are 2.25 inches by Black Fleece. I wear them with my narrow lapel jackets only.
     
  10. Mr. Potato

    Mr. Potato Senior member

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    I'm a skinny dude. 3.5" is usually as thin as I will go. But it depends on the width of the knot area. I have a 3" tie that is 0.75" in the middle. Looks ridiculous with most most of my shirts and suits. Then I have a 3" tie, 1.25" in the middle, and still looks balanced.
     
  11. tlmusic

    tlmusic Senior member

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    It's driven by the lapel width more than anything else.
    +1 You could also consider Alan Flusser's advice on neckwear, "Widths between 3 1/4 inches and 4 1/4 inches will generally ensure longevity." Dressing the Man (2002), Alan Flusser, pg. 165. But wait! Back in the 1980's [​IMG] he was writing, "The proper width of a tie, and one that will never be out of style, is 3 1/4 inches (2 3/4 to 3 1/2 inches are also acceptable." Clothes and the Man (1985), Alan Flusser, pg. 85
     
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    Grayland Senior member

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    I've settled on 3.5 inches. I have a few 3.25 inch ties, but any smaller and I don't care for them. I ordered a HF navy grenandine that was 3 inches wide. It just seemed too thin for me and I sent it back. I ordered a navy and a burgundy grenandine from Sam Hober and I specified 3.5 inches. Placed my order on April 8,so I'm getting pretty close to delivery!
     
  13. Mildly Consumptive

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    What width do you think I should go with? How do you go about choosing the width for your own ties?

    How wide is your tie in this photo? 3.5 inches? It seems slightly wide to me. Not at the widest part, which I can't see in this photo, but at the lowest visible part just above the jacket button.

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    I'm of average height and slimmish and order my ties in 3.25 inch width. When I began ordering ties from Sam Hober, I chose a ready-made tie whose fit I liked and went with it. A side benefit of slightly slimmer ties for me, which I didn't realise at the time of ordering, is that they allow me to make knots without dimples. Which I strongly prefer.

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    My skinny ties are all 1.75 inches. They are the real '60s deal, made by respected makers.
     
  15. Dewey

    Dewey Senior member

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    I think the actual measured width is overrated. If a tie is coming across as loud, or somehow extra central, then I think it plays wider than it is. For example, block stripe ties, or a solid black tie with a white shirt and a tan suit. What's important is the perception. The perception is the reality. If a tie is 3" wide but plays extra loud or heavy in the outfit, it's going to look and feel wider than a quiet tie that's 3.25" or 3.5" wide. That's been my experience at least.

    So the lapel width : tie width thing is just a guideline, not some kind of ironclad law, that I think anyone could flout thoughtfully and well -- especially if the ties and lapels in question are not radically skinny or wide.
     

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