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Silly Question - How do you pronounce Zegna?

embowafa

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I'll join in....

how exactly do you pronounce chukka and blucher?
 

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Originally Posted by idfnl
Did she actually say that?

Yes. I was laughing non stop for a good minute.
 

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Originally Posted by embowafa
I'll join in....

how exactly do you pronounce chukka and blucher?


chuhk-kuh

bloo-cher. You can also so bloo-ker too I think.
 

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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo
What were the other ways of pronouncing it?


Zain - Ya (I use this one sometimes)

zeg-nah (store staff)

Cey-nya (from and italian)
 

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JeffsWood;1708605 said:
Zain - Ya (I use this one sometimes)

This is closest to being correct. The 'z' sound is more like a 'ts', as in pizza (a 'z' in Italian is almost always pronounced as a 'ts' or 'ds' sound)

This is how I have heard Zegna SAs and other Italians in Italy pronouce the name.

Tsain - yuh

The 't' is barely pronounced.
 

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I speak Italian.

It's all short vowels. er-men-e-jeel-do zenya (like Kenya).
 

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Originally Posted by JeffsWood
hmmm. I have heard several other options from italians and Zegna staff. Still I use Zen-ya.

Example.
 

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Originally Posted by MetroStyles
I speak Italian.

It's all short vowels. er-men-e-jeel-do zenya (like Kenya).


jeel is not a short vowel. Neither is the "men," since it's really a "main," or the "do," which is a long o. And zegna is more like zayn-ya than Kenya.

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jmix1;1708739 said:
Originally Posted by JeffsWood
Zain - Ya (I use this one sometimes)

This is closest to being correct. The 'z' sound is more like a 'ts', as in pizza (a 'z' in Italian is almost always pronounced as a 'ts' or 'ds' sound)

This is how I have heard Zegna SAs and other Italians in Italy pronouce the name.

Tsain - yuh

The 't' is barely pronounced.


This is wrong too. A double zz in Italian is ts like pizza. A single z is usually soft, except in certain regional variations.
 

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Originally Posted by unjung
Thought it was a hard G. You're right, it's not.

Do you folks actually try to put the accent or inflection of the source language on the name? I sure as hell don't, sounds affected. For instance, with Jaeger-LeCoultre, I don't use a French accent... I anglicize it completely.


How would you anglicize jaeger lecoultre? jay-ger lay-cool-truh?
 

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grimslade;1708842 said:
Originally Posted by jmix1

This is wrong too. A double zz in Italian is ts like pizza. A single z is usually soft, except in certain regional variations.


Look at the pronunciation guide of words that start with z in an Italian dictionary, such as the Oxford Paravia that I use. All of the single zs are pronounced as a ts, ds, or dz.

Of course there are regional variations, but after traveling throughout Italy I've found that almost all Italians that I've heard speak tend to pronounce the z as I described.
 

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jmix1;1709048 said:
Originally Posted by grimslade

Look at the pronunciation guide of words that start with z in an Italian dictionary, such as the Oxford Paravia that I use. All of the single zs are pronounced as a ts, ds, or dz.

Of course there are regional variations, but after traveling throughout Italy I've found that almost all Italians that I've heard speak tend to pronounce the z as I described.


If you think "bets" and "beds" are pronounced indistinguishably, then that's cool. But the way I was taught Italian--and again, allowing for regional variations--double zz makes it hard like bets. single z is soft like beds.
 

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grimslade;1709060 said:
Originally Posted by jmix1

If you think "bets" and "beds" are pronounced indistinguishably, then that's cool. But the way I was taught Italian--and again, allowing for regional variations--double zz makes it hard like bets. single z is soft like beds.


Huh? I never wrote that they are pronounced indistinguishably. There doesn't seem to be a hard rule that all double zzs are pronounced like bets and all single zs like beds. Think about how you would pronounce zeta (dz in my opinion) and zampa (ts in my opinion). Both are single zs.
 

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