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Sideways, the movie

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Fabienne, Dec 29, 2004.

  1. acole

    acole Senior member

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    Given that artdeco A) acknowledged and apologized for his mistake, and B) actually fixed what was wrong, it's safe to assume he has precisely nothing to do with running our current government.
     
  2. Fabienne

    Fabienne Senior member

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    (mano @ Jan. 02 2005,06:15) I see you live in D.C., hope you're not involved in running our government.
    Given that artdeco A) acknowledged and apologized for his mistake, and B) actually fixed what was wrong, it's safe to assume he has precisely nothing to do with running our current government.
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    I rewatched Sideways this past weekend, and concluded that I did think it was the best movie of the past year. I think the character development was better than any of the other movies I've seen, and I liked it even more the second time I watched it. I think Million Dollar baby was a bit prosaic next to it...
     
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    Million Dollar Baby is pointlessly depressing, which is why it has a good shot at best picture. Unless I missed the oscars already.
     
  5. duffer67

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    absolutely loved sideways...wish my bucks/stag week was that eventful

    and all of that wine snobbery dissolved when the vat of spittle went down his throat.

    the incident on the golf course - happened to me. in real life though, you get the $hit beaten out of you.
     
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    I thought it was funny, but I wondered about the restaurants. They sure did not look like places in Burgundy or the Loire.
    I have only been to California twice, once for business, and did not go to wine country. Do the supposedly top restaurants for wine in California look like those scruffy road-houses, with such badly dressed and groomed staff and guests, or were they simply in the wrong part of the State?
     
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    This is Santa Barbara, not Napa Valley... and hardly premium spots... the characters in the movie weren't exactly loaded as well.
     
  8. Ambulance Chaser

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    Women.

    Saw Sideways last night.  Pretty entertaining buddy movie, came across like "Swingers" for the middle-aged set.  Perhaps one needs a Y chromosome to "get" the movie.  Don't worry, Fabienne, I didn't much care for "The Joy Luck Club" . . .
     
  9. Fabienne

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    I persist: that movie is a string of cliches.

    I didn't see the movie you mentioned. My idea of a good movie is "The English Patient", "American Beauty", or "Amelie". I tend to prefer British actors, who, in my opinion, feel more real.
     
  10. Brian SD

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    I always watch that with women I'm dating who haven't seen it yet.

    I generally hold your sentiment about acting, Fabienne, but in my taste it doesn't get more real than Miles in Sideways.

    On the first day of social psychology this year, my professor started using "liking Sideways" as a sort of correlation experiment to seperate males from females. He said it's one of his favorite movies, yet his wife hated it. Of course the experiment failed because when he asked the class who had seen the movie, he and I were the only ones who had, out of a class of 200.

    Now he uses it on practically every example of social psychology he can... such as "Bob likes Jane. Jane likes Bob. Bob likes Sideways. Jane doesn't like Sideways. Will Bob like Jane less, or will he like Sideways less? Will Jane like Bob less, or will she like Sideways more?"
     
  11. Fabienne

    Fabienne Senior member

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    or "Amelie"
    I always watch that with women I'm dating who haven't seen it yet. I generally hold your sentiment about acting, Fabienne, but in my taste it doesn't get more real than Miles in Sideways. On the first day of social psychology this year, my professor started using "liking Sideways" as a sort of correlation experiment to seperate males from females. He said it's one of his favorite movies, yet his wife hated it. Of course the experiment failed because when he asked the class who had seen the movie, he and I were the only ones who had, out of a class of 200. Now he uses it on practically every example of social psychology he can... such as "Bob likes Jane. Jane likes Bob. Bob likes Sideways. Jane doesn't like Sideways. Will Bob like Jane less, or will he like Sideways less? Will Jane like Bob less, or will she like Sideways more?"
    My husband was not particularly thrilled by the movie. He thought it was "OK". I really have a hard time with assessments like these, based on gender. So because I'm a woman I should like ...errr....I don't know, what are "women's" movies? Another movie I forgot to mention: "Dancer In The Dark", with Bjork and Catherine Deneuve. Even the musical comedy scenes grew on me. I have a thing for Lars Von Trier movies.
     
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    In general, I agree with this statement.  I believe, however, that certain movies reflect unique aspects and experiences of being a man, that a woman may understand, but cannot fully appreciate.  And vice versa.  An example is the scene from "Swingers" where Mikey repeatedly calls a woman he has just met in a bar, and leaves messages on her answering machine until she finally picks up and tells him never to call her again.  This scene is mildly amusing to the typical female viewer.  To the typical male viewer, it is painfully hilarious, as every guy has done something along these lines at some point in his life.  On the flip side, while I enjoy "Sex And The City," and believe it is one of the finest situation comedies of all time, I cannot possibly appreciate it on the same level as a single woman can.
     
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    (Fabienne @ Feb. 18 2005,10:25) I really have a hard time with assessments like these, based on gender. Â So because I'm a woman I should like ...errr....I don't know, what are "women's" movies?
    In general, I agree with this statement. Â I believe, however, that certain movies reflect unique aspects and experiences of being a man, that a woman may understand, but cannot fully appreciate. Â And vice versa. Â An example is the scene from "Swingers" where Mikey repeatedly calls a woman he has just met in a bar, and leaves messages on her answering machine until she finally picks up and tells him never to call her again. Â This scene is mildly amusing to the typical female viewer. Â To the typical male viewer, it is painfully hilarious, as every guy has done something along these lines at some point in his life. Â On the flip side, while I enjoy "Sex And The City," and believe it is one of the finest situation comedies of all time, I cannot possibly appreciate it on the same level as a single woman can.
    Yes, you are probably right, to some extent. But we all come in with baggage other than that of our gender. I know two women who did the repeat calling thing. It didn't get them anywhere. I have had men leave numerous phone messages on my answering machine, when I was single. I really felt more sorry for them than annoyed. At least not until they tracked me down at work. [​IMG]
     
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    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Disagree with the premise of hte article. The movie doesn't ignore alcoholism, it's focused on a character who is obviously an alcoholic. It's up to the viewer to get it, they shouldnt have to spell it out for the audience. I agree, there is no "woman's movie" or "man's movie." I think Ambulance nailed it right on the head though.
     
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    'Sideways' Logic: Please, Spare Us The Slob Story By Sally Quinn Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, February 26, 2005; Page C01 Imagine, if you can, a movie about two unattractive, gross women slobs going on a week-long spree and ending up with Brad Pitt and Ben Affleck. Imagine that becoming a hit, nominated for five Academy Awards, acclaimed by critics. Wait, don't even try. It ain't gonna happen. "Sideways," the low-budget Oscar contender, is a guys' movie that celebrates a certain cultural fantasy: Set off on a drinking-carousing-debauching adventure for a week with your buddy, seduce two great-looking girls and then dump them and go home. What fun. The reviews were fabulous, and then Charles Krauthammer wrote a whole column about it on the op-ed page, calling it "sublime . . . intelligent . . . clever, funny, moving." He concluded, "Trust me on this one. See it." I did. I hated it. And it wasn't just me. Most of the women I know feel the same way. See rest of essay here. Â (Registration required.)
     
  17. drizzt3117

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    What an insipid article on so many levels.

    1) What would be more realistic, beautiful people dating other beautiful people? Oh wait... we never get anything like that in Hollywood.

    2) Would it be better to have ugly people dating ugly people? I'm sure that movie would go over really well.

    3) I'm sure you've never seen beautiful girls dating less-attractive men... oh wait, it happens all the time for money, but in Sideways, it's not realistic because they're not wealthy? That's not a particularly attractive view of women that this reporter is presenting.

    4) Beyond the first three points, IT'S A MOVIE. Who cares if it's realistic? She didn't enjoy it because it wasn't realistic? I guess she doesn't like many movies in Hollywood then.

    I can say much more about this but this is a start.
     

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