Sideways, the movie

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Fabienne, Dec 29, 2004.

  1. TCN

    TCN Senior member

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    I really liked Sideways as well, and although I didn't see many movies this past year, it was my favorite.

    Fabienne touched on something that for me highlights Giamatti's brilliance, and that is the way the lead character is hysterically funny and depressing at the same time. I thought the movie was well acted virtually all the way around.

    I think they parodied wine country and conoisseurs just enough to keep it lighthearted, yet retain believability.
     
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    A friend just wrote and said he had seen Before Sunset, and the woman reminded him of me, at times. I'd better rent it quick.
     
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    I rented Before Sunset last night. Â It's Hollywood attempting to do an artsy movie, but it has redeeming qualities. Â The entire movie is a conversation between an American man and a French woman, as they walk through Paris. Â There's about the right amount of silly conversations, as in normal life, about the right amount of nervousness when there is attraction between two people. Â The shots of Paris are full of sunshine, and not in the least obviously recognizable (except for a boat ride where you see Notre Dame). Â Hollywood is getting better at its endings.
     
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    Fabienne -

    Have heart. Californians do not talk like this. Only those phonies in Hollywood. Napa Valey is for the tourists. We only go during harvest to smell the wine in the air while eating on the lawn along the highway. If you go another time, go during September or October, havest time. The air in the valley, well, make it worth while.
     
  5. Fabienne

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    (Fabienne @ 28 Dec. 2004, 8:24) Has anyone seen "Sideways"? Â When the waitress character started explaining what wine made her think of, I had reached my limit and walked out. Â I found it pretentious and off key when it came to discussions about wine. Fairly bad acting throughout (OK, maybe only till that previously cited scene, but I doubt it improved after I left). Â Do people really have conversations like these in California? Â A one day trip to Nappa valley was enough for me. Â Sonoma felt a little more sane. Â
    Fabienne - Have heart. Â Californians do not talk like this. Â Only those phonies in Hollywood. Â Napa Valey is for the tourists. Â We only go during harvest to smell the wine in the air while eating on the lawn along the highway. Â If you go another time, go during September or October, havest time. Â The air in the valley, well, make it worth while.
    We were In California in July, but went during the week. It wasn't too bad in the morning, and we did find a few nice "out of the way" spots. We had a picnic on the side of a vineyard, by a country road, and it almost felt like being in Europe again. The afternoon was quite distasteful. What I admire most is the patience of those serving at the wineries. Oh, what they have to endure. I'm sure they go through strenuous training to be able to withstand the assaults. Thanks for the suggestion.
     
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    Given that artdeco A) acknowledged and apologized for his mistake, and B) actually fixed what was wrong, it's safe to assume he has precisely nothing to do with running our current government.
     
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    Fabienne Senior member

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    (mano @ Jan. 02 2005,06:15) I see you live in D.C., hope you're not involved in running our government.
    Given that artdeco A) acknowledged and apologized for his mistake, and B) actually fixed what was wrong, it's safe to assume he has precisely nothing to do with running our current government.
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    I rewatched Sideways this past weekend, and concluded that I did think it was the best movie of the past year. I think the character development was better than any of the other movies I've seen, and I liked it even more the second time I watched it. I think Million Dollar baby was a bit prosaic next to it...
     
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    Million Dollar Baby is pointlessly depressing, which is why it has a good shot at best picture. Unless I missed the oscars already.
     
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    absolutely loved sideways...wish my bucks/stag week was that eventful

    and all of that wine snobbery dissolved when the vat of spittle went down his throat.

    the incident on the golf course - happened to me. in real life though, you get the $hit beaten out of you.
     
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    I thought it was funny, but I wondered about the restaurants. They sure did not look like places in Burgundy or the Loire.
    I have only been to California twice, once for business, and did not go to wine country. Do the supposedly top restaurants for wine in California look like those scruffy road-houses, with such badly dressed and groomed staff and guests, or were they simply in the wrong part of the State?
     
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    This is Santa Barbara, not Napa Valley... and hardly premium spots... the characters in the movie weren't exactly loaded as well.
     
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    Women.

    Saw Sideways last night.  Pretty entertaining buddy movie, came across like "Swingers" for the middle-aged set.  Perhaps one needs a Y chromosome to "get" the movie.  Don't worry, Fabienne, I didn't much care for "The Joy Luck Club" . . .
     
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    I persist: that movie is a string of cliches.

    I didn't see the movie you mentioned. My idea of a good movie is "The English Patient", "American Beauty", or "Amelie". I tend to prefer British actors, who, in my opinion, feel more real.
     
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    I always watch that with women I'm dating who haven't seen it yet.

    I generally hold your sentiment about acting, Fabienne, but in my taste it doesn't get more real than Miles in Sideways.

    On the first day of social psychology this year, my professor started using "liking Sideways" as a sort of correlation experiment to seperate males from females. He said it's one of his favorite movies, yet his wife hated it. Of course the experiment failed because when he asked the class who had seen the movie, he and I were the only ones who had, out of a class of 200.

    Now he uses it on practically every example of social psychology he can... such as "Bob likes Jane. Jane likes Bob. Bob likes Sideways. Jane doesn't like Sideways. Will Bob like Jane less, or will he like Sideways less? Will Jane like Bob less, or will she like Sideways more?"
     

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