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I see Engineered Garments in the centre of a messy venn diagram of loosely defined categories.

There’s the ametora-business-casual look—trying to stand out at the office by wearing a cookie-cutter uniform of a navy blazer and olive fatigues. Brands like 1st Pat-RN, ts(s), and Kaptain Sunshine come to mind. I think shops like Kafka, Bureau Belfast, No Man Walks Alone, and Drinkwater's cater to this group.

Then there’s the military-outdoor-workwear-heavy-duty-ivy side of things—wearing dad sneakers and an army jacket on the weekend. I’m thinking of brands like EG Workaday, orSlow, Real McCoys, and Buzz Rickson.

There’s the parkour-to-the-pub-gorpcore-streetwear vibe. Brands like Nanamica and North Face Purple Label, with Haven Shop as a key example, fit this category, I think.

Don't forget the techie-back-to-the-land-cottagecore-too-many-pockets look. Brands like Sassafras and Snow Peak, and stores like Reggieshop, embody this aesthetic.

There's also the garish smooshing of styles and cultures that can sometimes feel borderline appropriative. Brands like Visvim, Kapital, Monitaly, Needles, and most of Nepenthes’ lineup are perfect examples.

And of course, there’s the minimalist-utilitarian-90s-homeless-or-30s-hobo-off-to-uni look. I’m thinking of Evan Kinori’s trending poop-dyed zoot suits, shops like Glasswing and Neighbour, brands like Tender, Oliver Church, Casey Casey, Margaret Howell, even Nigel Cabourn.

Oh and this season—there's the whole Japan-in-Paris-in-the-80s-avant-garde aesthetic, with references to Yohji Yamamoto, Rei Kawakubo, and Junya Watanabe, to name a few.
 
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EG Bedford Jacket
Orslow Baker Pants
Paraboot Boat Shoes
 

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I see Engineered Garments in the centre of a messy venn diagram of loosely defined categories.

There’s the ametora-business-casual look—trying to stand out at the office by wearing a cookie-cutter uniform of a navy blazer and olive fatigues. Brands like 1st Pat-RN, ts(s), and Kaptain Sunshine come to mind. I think shops like Kafka, Bureau Belfast, No Man Walks Alone, and Drinkwater's cater to this group.

Then there’s the military-outdoor-workwear-heavy-duty-ivy side of things—wearing dad sneakers and an army jacket on the weekend. I’m thinking of brands like EG Workaday, orSlow, Real McCoys, and Buzz Rickson.

There’s the parkour-to-the-pub-gorpcore-streetwear vibe. Brands like Nanamica and North Face Purple Label, with Haven Shop as a key example, fit this category, I think.

Don't forget the techie-back-to-the-land-cottagecore-too-many-pockets look. Brands like Sassafras and Snow Peak, and stores like Reggieshop, embody this aesthetic.

There's also the garish smooshing of styles and cultures that can sometimes feel borderline appropriative. Brands like Visvim, Kapital, Monitaly, Needles, and most of Nepenthes’ lineup are perfect examples.

And of course, there’s the minimalist-utilitarian-90s-homeless-or-30s-hobo-off-to-uni look. I’m thinking of Evan Kinori’s trending poop-dyed zoot suits, shops like Glasswing and Neighbour, brands like Tender, Oliver Church, Casey Casey, Margaret Howell, even Nigel Cabourn.

Oh and this season—there's the whole Japan-in-Paris-in-the-80s-avant-garde aesthetic, with references to Yohji Yamamoto, Rei Kawakubo, and Junya Watanabe, to name a few.
This is a really nice post and is similar to how I feel. I’ve become old and boring and EG has become my one stop shop for almost all my clothes but at various points over the last 15 years I’ve worn all these brands with EG. I’ve never quite understood why people get hung up on what other brands to wear with EG, you can wear anything you want and as long as it’s congruent it will look good.

Currently contemplating a pair of Guidi boots to go with the Zip jacket and Sarrouel pants I picked up this season. If anyone knows how to size Guidi 788 boots then let me know. Also, just sent back a Dries jacket that didn’t work out for me but would have been cool with EG from any era.

Although I’ll never understand the love people have for 1st Pattern. Personally find it utterly soulless for some reason. Sorry.
 

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In Nov 2023, I started buying only items made in the US or Japan. Sounds crazy but I wanted to focus where my money went. EG was my first few purchases. I love the fit of the button downs with the odd pockets. Then I found Orslow jeans and fatigues. I recently replaced all of my t-shirts with Whitesvilles and my socks with Rototos. I have two Kapital jackets (Ring Coat and Coverall) and feel like I have most things covered now. I bought the NB 990v6. I am retired and no one wears clothes like these where I live. The design and quality are two things I have been looking for.
 

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all the brands mentioned above are adjacent to EG but EG does things slightly off kilter and there's really no equivalent. but i do agree at this point with pricing that i rather scoop MIJ items any day
agreed though i would add freewheelers (they had some older outdoorsy collections that hit similar notes to eg ~2012-15) and postoalls to the mix in terms of design ethos but where they diverge is that these brands can look a little vintage-y while eg looks contemporary. at the end of the day eg is still the most well rounded
 
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I'm curious about which brands you like that offer a similar aesthetic.

Sorry I didn't notice your response earlier. As Blackcheer's post mentions I suppose it depends on what exact style you are extracting from EG. Others have mentioned a few brands which may offer some elements of EG within. Another known brand may include Eastlogue, although this brand has gone the expansion route as well...but the price point still seems more reasonable. Not sure if this brand is still active but Mojito from Japan kind of has that "fun/interesting" aspect within.

Haven't been deep into clothing the past few years but I'm sure there are interesting newer brands which may fit the mold if you want to spend time searching. Usually if you find a couple, you just can follow the same stockists and find others.
 

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I see Engineered Garments in the centre of a messy venn diagram of loosely defined categories.

There’s the ametora-business-casual look—trying to stand out at the office by wearing a cookie-cutter uniform of a navy blazer and olive fatigues. Brands like 1st Pat-RN, ts(s), and Kaptain Sunshine come to mind. I think shops like Kafka, Bureau Belfast, No Man Walks Alone, and Drinkwater's cater to this group.

Then there’s the military-outdoor-workwear-heavy-duty-ivy side of things—wearing dad sneakers and an army jacket on the weekend. I’m thinking of brands like EG Workaday, orSlow, Real McCoys, and Buzz Rickson.

There’s the parkour-to-the-pub-gorpcore-streetwear vibe. Brands like Nanamica and North Face Purple Label, with Haven Shop as a key example, fit this category, I think.

Don't forget the techie-back-to-the-land-cottagecore-too-many-pockets look. Brands like Sassafras and Snow Peak, and stores like Reggieshop, embody this aesthetic.

There's also the garish smooshing of styles and cultures that can sometimes feel borderline appropriative. Brands like Visvim, Kapital, Monitaly, Needles, and most of Nepenthes’ lineup are perfect examples.

And of course, there’s the minimalist-utilitarian-90s-homeless-or-30s-hobo-off-to-uni look. I’m thinking of Evan Kinori’s trending poop-dyed zoot suits, shops like Glasswing and Neighbour, brands like Tender, Oliver Church, Casey Casey, Margaret Howell, even Nigel Cabourn.

Oh and this season—there's the whole Japan-in-Paris-in-the-80s-avant-garde aesthetic, with references to Yohji Yamamoto, Rei Kawakubo, and Junya Watanabe, to name a few.
Spot on!

EG being a central point in a wardrobe that covers a lot of genres like Gorp, outdoor, City Boy, Rugged Ivy, military and repro, vintage, etc, is something that most menswear nerds can get with.

I’m going to draw this Venn and put it on my closet, in case I’m stuck on what to wear next time.

EG and something to with it…
 
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^would say less gorp, but would be interesting if EG started doing a little bit of And Wander/Snow Peak type stuff but that might be a little venture off from EG core.

So I’m looking to pick up some pieces but can someone chime in on how the recent work shirts and bedford/loiter fits? Work shirts (herringbone) seem to be true to size or down for slightly trim fit. Bedford and loiter seem true to size.

I struggle with sizing as not many places near me carry EG unfortunately. Having been burned on sizing (especially pants sigh), I’d appreciate any help!

have other EG pieces but their sizing varies so much across seasons.. for reference I’m typically a 3 in Orslow shirts, usually a large in uniqlo, beams plus I have some large oxfords but would be fine with a xl for slightly looser fit.

So I’m thinking of going with a medium in the work shirt (can probably shrink a tad if too big) and then medium in bedford or loiter (my suit jacket is a 40).

Thanks for the help all!
 
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I see Engineered Garments in the centre of a messy venn diagram of loosely defined categories.

There’s the ametora-business-casual look—trying to stand out at the office by wearing a cookie-cutter uniform of a navy blazer and olive fatigues. Brands like 1st Pat-RN, ts(s), and Kaptain Sunshine come to mind. I think shops like Kafka, Bureau Belfast, No Man Walks Alone, and Drinkwater's cater to this group.

Then there’s the military-outdoor-workwear-heavy-duty-ivy side of things—wearing dad sneakers and an army jacket on the weekend. I’m thinking of brands like EG Workaday, orSlow, Real McCoys, and Buzz Rickson.

There’s the parkour-to-the-pub-gorpcore-streetwear vibe. Brands like Nanamica and North Face Purple Label, with Haven Shop as a key example, fit this category, I think.

Don't forget the techie-back-to-the-land-cottagecore-too-many-pockets look. Brands like Sassafras and Snow Peak, and stores like Reggieshop, embody this aesthetic.

There's also the garish smooshing of styles and cultures that can sometimes feel borderline appropriative. Brands like Visvim, Kapital, Monitaly, Needles, and most of Nepenthes’ lineup are perfect examples.

And of course, there’s the minimalist-utilitarian-90s-homeless-or-30s-hobo-off-to-uni look. I’m thinking of Evan Kinori’s trending poop-dyed zoot suits, shops like Glasswing and Neighbour, brands like Tender, Oliver Church, Casey Casey, Margaret Howell, even Nigel Cabourn.

Oh and this season—there's the whole Japan-in-Paris-in-the-80s-avant-garde aesthetic, with references to Yohji Yamamoto, Rei Kawakubo, and Junya Watanabe, to name a few.
Just wanted to chime in and say how helpful this post has been for me, not only for conceptualizing and perfectly articulating EG, but for thinking about the various threads I pull on for my own (developing) personal style as well... Cheers!
 
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I do agree it would be risky for EG to pivot away from Made In NYC, as suggested price drop to decent stuff made in China or elsewhere won't be that much. Especially as the move would be to increase profits so its just the value for the consumer that would continue to drop.

I genuinely believe the cycle for EG as a quality, niche menswear brand has run its course. I think if one looks hard enough you can find a similar aesthetic elsewhere which offers more value and supports more of the artisanal spirit. Of course as EG has saturated the market (relatively speaking) you can also just peruse the deep secondary markets for some good finds.
I'm feeling increasingly this way, too, the brand doesn't sustain much attention to me.

When I was a teenager I dreamed of wearing EG, the resale market for them is wonderfully good, right now, for anyone who's like teenage me and willing to wait for good opportunities.

Few months ago I got a FW2012 woolen parka from someone on grailed for ~$100, and it had sat on their page for a year+. Typical 5 pockets w/ one at the bicep; gigantic 3-snap-button pocket along the middle of the backside that I use to carry excessively large books / store my umbrella during the dry mornings of rainy days; really enjoyable details like corduroy lining at the side pockets under the 2 bottom-front pockets and at the chin flap of the zipper closure. ~$100.

I do love EG but I've paid retail exactly once: patchwork fatigues in summer 2019, I had seen someone wearing these (with sand-suede wallabees and the black EG overparka..) on a subway platform one afternoon, and they haunted me. I've seen them used on grailed a few times since.

Maybe it doesn't need exemplification, but, yeah, it's really easy to peruse of those deep secondary markets.

I see Engineered Garments in the centre of a messy venn diagram of loosely defined categories.
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To put it simply, EG is post-workwear american-filtered japanese-filtered american japanese americana, for work.
 

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^would say less gorp, but would be interesting if EG started doing a little bit of And Wander/Snow Peak type stuff but that might be a little venture off from EG core.

So I’m looking to pick up some pieces but can someone chime in on how the recent work shirts and bedford/loiter fits? Work shirts (herringbone) seem to be true to size or down for slightly trim fit. Bedford and loiter seem true to size.

I struggle with sizing as not many places near me carry EG unfortunately. Having been burned on sizing (especially pants sigh), I’d appreciate any help!

have other EG pieces but their sizing varies so much across seasons.. for reference I’m typically a 3 in Orslow shirts, usually a large in uniqlo, beams plus I have some large oxfords but would be fine with a xl for slightly looser fit.

So I’m thinking of going with a medium in the work shirt (can probably shrink a tad if too big) and then medium in bedford or loiter (my suit jacket is a 40).

Thanks for the help all!

They fit big, but that's the way it's sized. I used to size down on it but sometimes the shoulder or sleeve length is off. If it's too long, you can always get it hemmed.
 
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They fit big, but that's the way it's sized. I used to size down on it but sometimes the shoulder or sleeve length is off. If it's too long, you can always get it hemmed.
Thank you good sir, appreciate the feedback. That was one of my worries as well - the shoulders being a bit tight. From what I’ve seen on your posts here in this thread, everything fits you with sublime draping lol. I’ve definitely made some EG purchases based on your photos lol.
 

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