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Stoffa has always been on my radar for their MTO casual wear, just can't afford it yet. Agyesh, definitely has an eye for interesting textiles and fit. However, I simply don't know what to make of the patchwork stuff. Maybe its the large panels that throw me off. Definitely reminds me of By Walid like @oulipien said. Still, If you love them go for it.

The chindi coats are my personal favorites from the new collection.
The chindi coats are great, and if I already didn't have more coats than I knew what to do with I'd probably be down for one. They are a bit loud however. I feel like the patchwork pants would be a bit easier to wear and would fit well with the rest of my wardrobe. I have a thing for patchwork. :p
 

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I really dislike those patchwork trousers from Stoffa - both the patchwork paneling and the cut.

There are much better makers of patchwork trousers out there. I would not go to a CM trousers guy for patchwork. It’s like going to a CM shoe brand for casual trainers.
 

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^I find the pants to very "gimmicky", although I liked the brands entire slow fashion agenda. The slippers are nice, although very specific.
I understand the fatigue with patchwork in general (although I still like a lot of what we see out there when buying), but I'd say that this particular collection is some of the least "gimmicky" of all the patchwork stuff out there because the patching is actually driven by the idea of recycling leftover pieces of fabrics. It has a true intent and meaning - it's not just a design idea
 

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Just based on photos I've seen, stoffa's strength has seemed more like soft, well-combined colors and materials -- kind of like cucinelli's chill cousin. This patchwork is a big aesthetic swerve from that. I hope it goes well for them. I personally strongly dislike how it looks, but I'm not a customer so 🤷‍♂️.

I also have patchwork fatigue (and i'm not talking about owning tactical pants!)
 

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No patchwork fatigue on my part.

With the pandemic destroying the normal selling season this Summer, I hoovered all the Junya Watanabe patchwork that I could find in my size and am open to buying more.
 

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So do I, but in a wider cut. Love 'em.

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These are really lovely -- I prefer the wider legged version of these than the other one posted. But very close to my cottle patchwork jeans:



So I couldn't really justify them. :) I'm particularly interested in the Stoffa ones because of the kantha fabric. I have 18 easts kantha shorts and they're super nice. Way more comfortable than denim. Definitely a different vibe than patchwork jeans.
 

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The Cottle ones are about three times as expensive, however... I really can't get past that fact with their stuff. Those jeans are very nice but they aren't Over $1000 Nice.
I can't quite speak to pricing, but given the human effort and textile research that goes into making their stuff I can see it. Seems like patchwork from Kapital for example goes even pricier, and I don't think the fabric or construction is nearly as good.
 

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I can't quite speak to pricing, but given the human effort and textile research that goes into making their stuff I can see it. Seems like patchwork from Kapital for example goes even pricier, and I don't think the fabric or construction is nearly as good.
The point is that we're comparing this to products from people like Blue Blue Japan with similar fabrics, effort and whatever and which may even have more of each. And if you're really claiming that Cottle has done research on denim that no-one else has in the Okayama textile industry, you've having a tin bath - you're just repeating their marketing pitch. There is no real justification for charging $1000 pair of jeans which has basically had some washing, ageing and patching - apart from the fact that some people will both buy it and help the company in hyping it. Now you're perfectly entitled to buy your money, but don't expect everyone else just to accept the hype.
 

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The point is that we're comparing this to products from people like Blue Blue Japan with similar fabrics, effort and whatever and which may even have more of each. And if you're really claiming that Cottle has done research on denim that no-one else has in the Okayama textile industry, you've having a tin bath - you're just repeating their marketing pitch. There is no real justification for charging $1000 pair of jeans which has basically had some washing, ageing and patching - apart from the fact that some people will both buy it and help the company in hyping it. Now you're perfectly entitled to buy your money, but don't expect everyone else just to accept the hype.
Well to be honest I'm not as familiar with BBJ but they seem like a much larger operation. I'm not sure how much they actually go into actually developing the textiles they use. It seems like Cottle did actually put quite a lot of time and effort into developing their own denim fabric, as opposed to using something put out by another mill. Not asking anyone to buy into the hype -- they have pretty different aesthetics anyways.

And anyways I wasn't talking about buying the cottle jeans, but rather the stoffa kantha patchwork. Was just saying the BBJ ones are close enough to my cottle jeans I wouldn't be able to justify both. Whereas I think the cottle vs. stoffa are different enough they wouldn't be competing for wears.
 
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