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Should I or shouldn't I buy... (clothing item)?

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by kronik, Jun 25, 2008.

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  1. mr.invincible

    mr.invincible Senior member

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    Looking to buy a topcoat.

    Uniqlo chesterfield coat vs jcrew topcoat? Is jcrew thicker or are they equivalent? Is uniqlos chesterfield worth $129?
     


  2. Dr Huh?

    Dr Huh? Senior member

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    J.Crew is probably thicker. But also much more expensive. What are you wearing under it? I find J.Crew's coats to fit small.
     


  3. Dr Huh?

    Dr Huh? Senior member

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    On jackets, or on anything?
     


  4. Longtom

    Longtom New Member

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    Uniqlo is normally great quality for the price
     


  5. nahneun

    nahneun Uncle Nephew

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    i hate patch pockets on everything, but understand that they will be a mainstay on many things like lab coats...

    but fuck them on blazers and sport coats
     


  6. notwithit

    notwithit Pullup laureate

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    So...kind of. I have maybe four blue jackets that I actually wear, but three of them are more in the sweater / sweatshirt category and I don't really wear them for work. The other one is a Uniqlo comfort jacket from a while back that has more grey in it than this, which is a much more saturated color. This one has the advantage of being a little heavier than the Uniqlo jacket (better for fall) and feeling a little sturdier (no offense to Uniqlo), plus it's got a little stretch and elbow patches that I like for no defensible reason.

    I have one other cotton blend Harris Wharf jacket, which is pretty similar to this (not sure whether the length is similarly hate-inducing) in dark grey, and it's probably my most-worn jacket (followed by the aforementioned Uniqlo jacket). I have two wool ones (grey herringbone and rust brown / orange) that I'm probably going to get rid of because I don't wear them that much (true of most of my wool stuff).

    Anyway, it's basic and boring, but I'm basic and boring 90% of the time, and it's casual enough to go with jeans and a t-shirt without being so casual that it would look off with chinos and a button-down. It's kind of redundant, but probably something I'd wear somewhat frequently.

    All the feedback on length is giving me pause, though. Maybe Harris Wharf is a brand that only works on shorter guys. Unfortunate, because I really, really like that their jackets are ventless (another indefensible preference, but I hate vents on casual jackets, particularly when they're on the shorter side), relatively slim-fitting, and nails the aforementioned casual-but-not-too-casual note.

    Patch pockets are awesome on blazers and sportcoats on the casual end of the spectrum. Screw jetted / besom / welted pockets on anything that's not business or formal.

    Meet me outside Uniqlo. We can shop for patch-pocket blazers together.
     


  7. il_colonnello

    il_colonnello Senior member

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    It isn't just the length, a concomitant of that is that the buttoning point is way too high for you. I am sure if you take a full fit picture of yourself in that jacket from a bit of a distance, you'll realise how ridiculously high the buttoning stance looks on you. (There is a pretty good rule-of-thumb that on a 2-button jacket your navel should be halfway between the 2 buttons for a balanced look.)
     


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    malcb33 Senior member

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    I feel the same about Kpop GIFs
     


  9. nahneun

    nahneun Uncle Nephew

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    love you too, boo :foo:
     


  10. notwithit

    notwithit Pullup laureate

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    I just measured, and the buttons are 4.5" apart from center to center. My navel falls 3" below the top button, which is 2/3 of the way.

    Rule broken.

    We need a mic drop emoji here. Or a mic drop Kpop gif.
     


  11. nahneun

    nahneun Uncle Nephew

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    more relevant

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  12. il_colonnello

    il_colonnello Senior member

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    Exactly, hence the unbalanced look. The buttons of that jacket need to be lower (and the whole thing longer) for your navel to fall in the middle between them.

    There's a million stock images/lookbook pictures on the Internet of tall lanky models looking bad in suits and SCs designed for people a lot less tall. SFers are doing it better; take a look at some of the fit pics over in CM. Or take a full-body picture of yourself in that coat, not just the top half; I'm sure you'll see.
     


  13. notwithit

    notwithit Pullup laureate

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    Meh, I don't like CM. Their jackets all have vents and shoulder pads.

    Or rules for that matter, although I can accept that this jacket is probably too short for me.
     


  14. sipang

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    Idk man. CM is prone to silly concepts like the perfect fit and weird hang-ups like the fear of odd navy trousers but that doesn't mean there's nothing useful there to be gained from a SW&D standpoint. Not finer nitpicky points but stuff like broad considerations about balance and how the dimensions of various pieces/parts/features of an outfit interact and affect the overall silhouette. Not rules for the sake of rules but things that actually make as much sense whether you're wearing Kiton or Lemaire or Rick or Engineered Garments or... From this side of the fence, most of it might seem arbitrary or opaque at first but the truth is there is no fucking fence (my insight into CM came somewhat circuitously through my interest in YY so you know...).

    Of course the beauty of SW&D is that you're free to disregard it all or turn it on its head and still achieve something coherent but the basic rules are still the same and you're playing around them. I think the reason most people dislike's that HW jacket is that it just looks like a badly proportioned/scaled down boring CM jacket (vents or not) with the accompanying problems (too short, too high buttoning) and none of the playfulness/weirdness to compensate.

    On the other hand, you don't have to care so...
     
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