if you're going to kop NBs I'd get these leather 576s (made in england) much less conspicuous branding (the 'made-in-usa' version on the other hand seems to have branding on the soles?!! wtf?) and great color. i'd kop them but i'm only looking for a pair of running shoes, and these are strictly speaking only for walking so i don't know if functionality-wise i should kop or not. can anyone comment on their suitability for running (jogging actually, nothing intense)? These would work really well with an eccentric, LN-CC type wardrobe but not with, say, jeans and an OCBD. They remind me of old sauconys, not that that's necessarily bad. Most NBs are appealing in part b/c of the clunkiness and deliberately nonfashion design. Embrace the ugliness. Like a French bulldog.