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Should I get a J.Crew Ludlow Suit or BR monogram?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Jake Volmer, Sep 1, 2012.

  1. Jake Volmer

    Jake Volmer Active Member

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    I know these aren't high end name brands, but I do not have a lot of money. I am looking to purchase a suit (jacket and pants) for a wedding and hopefully use it for school/job interviews later on. Through some coupons and other discounts, I am able to purchase one of the following suits:

    1) BR Monogram navy Italian wool one-button suit blazer w/ navy Italian wool one-button suit blazer for $505 (tax inclusive)

    2) J.Crew two-button suit jacket with double-vented back in Italian wool w/ classic suit pant in Italian wool for $395 (tax inclusive)

    Both these suits retail for ~$650 without taxes. Is one a better deal than the other? Which style/cut will hold more over time? Or are thee suits just not very good investments?

    Well thanks for reading and hope any one of you fine styleform denizens can give a suit novice some advice.
     
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  2. Ianiceman

    Ianiceman Senior member

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    Ludlow is better IMO. Not sure if BR are canvassed but Ludlows are. They don't get much love on here due to SF's curious love for 1970's width jacket lapels, but I like the slim lapels as long as they are in proportion with the body of the persons wearing them.
     


  3. phxlawstudent

    phxlawstudent Senior member

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    Ludlow! Are you wafer thin? If not, I recommend you seriously reconsider buying the Aldridge. Not only will it fit better, but it is cheaper IIRC.

    J. Crew over BR monogram, IMO. No reason other than I don't like the BR monogram.

    Better yet, get a Joseph Abboud at the Rack.
     


  4. wj4

    wj4 Senior member

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    If you're a slim person, skip BR alone based on the fit. Their slim fit is still very conservative. If you're going with J. Crew, go into the store and buy the suit or use a red phone in the store to order it. Tell them you're a student and ask for the 15% discount.

    I thought both brands were somewhat equal several years ago, but J. Crew has severely blown BR out of the water since then.
     


  5. Jake Volmer

    Jake Volmer Active Member

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    I'm a shade over 5'9", 135lbs with a slim/athletic/muscular build. My chest measurement is 38'' and a jacket size of 38'' fits me well with some room to spare for a smidge of tailoring, however the shoulders jet out just enough for it to bother me.

    When I tried on the BR Tailored fits earlier, I get the experience with the above. Even one of the floor associates helping me mentioned, "I like how it fits on you. It doesn't look too big but I don't like "that." The "That" was said as she pointed at my shoulders and wrinkled her nose.

    When I tried on The BR Monogram style in a 38'', everything fit okay and little or no tailoring would be needed. The BR monogram suits definitely felt better and the material flowed more easily when I moved. It was a more form-fitting cut.

    In the J.Crew Ludlow, again a size 38'' fit well but there was minor shoulder jetting. Though skeptical when I initially tried it on, one of the in-store "personal stylists" liked the 36'' on me because it looked more stream lined and a formed a better silhouette.

    So one may ask, why I went with those two companies(?) J.Crew and BR happened to be right next to each other in the mall, I knew the styles were relatively new and discounts would be available. (Also, the JCrew Men's store just opened up this week with a specialty Ludlow section so I was enticed to shop around). I just didn't have time to drive to different places.
     


  6. Nicola

    Nicola Senior member

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    Damn I thought I was light :D
     


  7. bellyhungry

    bellyhungry Senior member

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    Get the one that fits you better.
     


  8. gyasih

    gyasih Senior member

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    Check B&S, you may find a better quality and cheaper suit that you can purchase, even if you factor in tailoring.
     
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  9. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    +1

    You can get full canvas stuff for $650. Stay away from fused BR junk

    Just know your p2p measurement (~40 to 40.5 inches, if your true chest is 38) and shoulder measurement
     
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  10. jt10000

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    I have an J Crew Aldridge (slightly fuller cut than Ludlow) that I absolutely love. Bought about five years ago. I went into a BR store recently to check out the suits and was not impressed - the ones I looked at felt stiff and boxy. And I'm far below typical SF standards on suit quality - I have a Tommy Hilfiger suit that I like the feel of, for example. So I'm pretty-easy to-please and BR did not do it for me. But maybe it was just the store I was in.
     
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  11. jt10000

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    Ludlows are canvassed? Are you sure? Damn, if true I wish J Crew would bring back the Aldridge with that construction. I love the one I have - fits me great - and would buy more.
     


  12. TimelesStyle

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    Between those two I would definitely go with J. Crew. They have really evolved as a company over the past few years and produce some high quality stuff. I also feel like Banana tries to imitate higher end designers with its look, which comes across as cheap, while J. Crew has more of its own aesthetic.

    The one other thing I would try, if you can find a good discount coupon, are the Brooks Brothers Milano cut suits. They tend to have a very soft shoulder and slim fit, which should work well for you. They're half canvased but probably still higher quality than J Crew (definitely better than BR). Personally, I think this one is pretty nice:

    http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCat...&Product_Id=1709712&default_color=Black-white


    They didn't seem to have much that would fit you in the sale section, though given how slim/short they run, the 39L may still fit you, that being the smallest size any of the sale suits came in:

    http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCat...color=TAN&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=

    http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCat...olor=BLUE&sort_by=&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=

    First could work for a day wedding, and possibly a school admissions interview (though probably not for law school or business school) while the second would be good for an evening wedding and could easily double as an interview suit (in spite of what people say about stripes...).

    Also, can anyone comment on the quality of Suit Supply suits? Never seen them in person but judging from the website they'd fit the OP's build well and be in the right price range (they could also be absolute crap, I have no way of knowing).
     
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  13. Quadcammer

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    half at best.
     


  14. gsugsu

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    +1 half canvassed. I haven't purchased J Crew for several years. The jackets I have experience with do not age well. Fabrics pill and begin to look shabby before their time. I find them "noisy" when you move, if that makes sense. Seems to have something to do with the quality of the lining.
     


  15. Ianiceman

    Ianiceman Senior member

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    @ Timeless style there's a whole thread about suitsupply which IMO are a cut above JCrew. Their Milano cut is half canvassed for about $450 and the Jort is full for about $999.

    Not sure if the lining causes Ludlows to be 'noisy' but they do have bemberg lining not some nylon crap. I got one brand new off eBay for $150 which I consider a huge bargain despite the snootiness of the SF elite!:D
     


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