Now, now, boys, play nice. I don't understand jcusey's comments about the measuring technique being irrelevant. I've never had a pair of shoes custom-made - my tastes run more towards the new Nike Lazers (oh, how I want to get my hands on a pair.) than to John Lobb, although I wouldn't say no to a pair - but it seems to me that it would be hard to make a pair of shoes that fit perfectly if the measurements are done incorrectly. Maybe you guys are irritable today because your EG's are pinching your feet I invite you all to ditch the suits and ties and custom made shoes, throw on your favorite pair of jeans and Pumas, and come join me for a beer or five - in the middle of the workday. All you corporate types, eat your heart out.