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Shoes in ny

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mack, Oct 4, 2003.

  1. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Alfred Sargent if I'm not mistaken - equivalent to Sargent's Premier Collection. Check out the Hadleigh - Brooks is carrying a shoe that looks to be identical. I think the quality is consistent as well. Interestingly, my first impression of the new Peals is that they are a bit nicer than the Crockett & Jones "Hand Grade" shoes. That's even more interesting considering that the Sargent "Premier" shoes only cost about $215 including shipping from England.. Better yet, Alfred Sargent top line of shoes - the Premier Exclusive Range are even nicer. They are whole-cut, have oak-bark tanned soles with a "half black" finish, and have a nicer lining with the little "size oval" like Edward Green. Cost - about $275 including shipping.. I've been meaning to give the "Premier Exclusive" shoes a try but keep pushing it off to next month. Anyone care to beat me to it and report back here??
     
  2. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think that Testoni still makes a knock-off. I've seen a Testoni shoe in recent Maus and Hoffman catalogues that is very similar to Belgian shoes.

    I like the styling, too. I think that a Belgian shoe in black velvet or faux leopard would make a great tuxedo shoe.
     
  3. MPS

    MPS Senior member

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    I've only ever seen the Alfred Sargent Exclusive Premier Collection in a shoe store just opposite the Royal Society of Medicine. They look nice, though I don't think that they are quite as well made as C & J's handgrade line. Sargent also makes shoes for Tim Little - I have a pair of wholecut "Red House" shoes from the latter and they're very nice indeed.
     
  4. InfiniteSpree

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    My interest was piqued by the "uber-preppy" mentioned in conjunction with the Belgian loafer. I can't seem to find a picture of them on the Internet though. Could someone provide a link?

    Thanks,
    Ryan
     
  5. shoefan

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    Belgian shoes The Belgian shoes are reputed to be extremely comfortable, although definitely a rather ideosyncratic style. Â The company was founded by the Henri Bendel, and apparently the shoes became a fashion staple of the Upper East Side crowd in the 70's. Â The shoes are only sold at the company's own store in NYC. Â My understanding is that they are handmade, although what exactly this means is unclear to me. The following is from a New York Times web story: The Traditionalist's Hit Parade By GINIA BELLAFANTE A man who outfits himself at J. Press might well have a pair of Belgian shoes in his closet, or if not, he'd be looking for a woman who did. Unlike, say, duck ties, Belgian shoes are an essential part of the prep wardrobe, carrying an image more genuinely exclusive than goofy. Part of the reason is that the fashion world embraced them in the 1970's, and part of it is that they can be found in only one spot, Belgian Shoes, on East 55th Street. The store was opened in 1956 by Henri Bendel, originally one block away. It still maintains the genteel hours of 9 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. and started opening on Saturdays only last year. The store has had the same manager for 44 years, Margaret Cardone, a native of Queens, who will tell you first and foremost that the Belgian shoe, a piped, bowed, slip-on affair, "is not a loafer." Like other elements of the prep iconography, Belgian shoes, brought to this country from Belgium in 1955, were intended for times spent swirling swizzle sticks in Palm Beach and on Harbour Island. Like many of their wearers, Belgian shoes aren't meant to do much at all. "You have to remember, the people who wore these didn't go to work," Ms. Cardone said, standing in front of a shelf full of shoes in pastels and bright yellow with contrasting piping. "This is not a shoe to be worn all day." for a pic of bright green Belgian's, see the article here: NYTimes article Also, a rather amusing article: Belgian shoes article
     
  6. shoefan

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    Oh yeah, for what it's worth, Stuart Weitzman has in their current line a knock-off of the Belgians. I know because a friend of mine was wearing them yesterday, and I asked her if they were Belgians; she told me they are Weitzmans.
     
  7. jcusey

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    You know, even though the C&J Peal shoes were cut using Handgrade patterns and had such Handgrade features as channelled soles, I never thought that they were quite the same level of quality as Handgrade shoes. They were made on different lasts, they didn't have a full sock liner, and it didn't look to me that the leather was quite the same level of quality as on Handgrade. Still, they were a pretty good deal given what quality English shoes usually bring in the US. I haven't tried the new Peals on yet, but the quality looks to be pretty impressive. Of course, since I can get identical shoes from Britain for 30% less, I'll probably do that if I decide that I just have to try AS shoes (which seems likely).
    You're a bad influence. First you offer those Vass shoes at ridiculously low prices, now you try to get others to market test AS shoes for you  [​IMG] .
     
  8. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It's funny you should mention that because I was questioning my memory on the same matter. Some of the Peal shoes seemed to be C&J Handgrade but didn't seem quite as nice as the other Handgrade shoes I've seen. I wonder if the same goes for the Polo shoes?? I've seen them all on seperate occasions but never together so that I could make a proper comparison.
     
  9. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Here recently, all the Polo shoes that I've seen have been Italian-made and thoroughly forgettable. The C&J-made Polo shoes that I've seen have all been comparable to C&J's regular line (soles stitched aloft, etc.). That's not to say that there weren't or aren't C&J-made Polo shoes that are closer to Handgrade quality, just that they haven't made it to Houston.
     
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    I'm a little late to this thread. I don't think anyone has mentioned A. Testoni shoes. They have their own store on 5th Avenue and their shoes are also sold at Barneys.
     
  11. LiS

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    As far as I know (and I was just there not too long ago), Dunhill now sells three different shoes: one by Grenson (most formal dress shoes), one by Alfred Sargent (some boots), and one Italian factory (not great). I know it is Grenson as Naturlaut has the exact pair of shoes under Grenson's label (same styling, same last, same interior, same stitching, same buckle, etc.). In Hong Kong, they are around US$570, which I think too expensive. They are difinitely not Edward Green.
     

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