Shoes in ny

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mack, Oct 4, 2003.

  1. mack

    mack Active Member

    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2003
    I will be in Manhattan on a very short trip soon and want to look at something beyond the Church's I usually buy.  I understand Edward Green shoes are sold at Dormeuil, but does anyone else carry them?  Are any French brands available besides Weston?  

    I'm looking for something conservative, but would also like to find a pair of tan(British oak?) colored loafers.

    Finally, any reports about the Alan Flusser shop and is there anything else I should try and see?

    Thanks again, all.
     


  2. Steve B.

    Steve B. Go Spurs Go

    Messages:
    10,284
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2002
    Location:
    San Antonio
    Dormeuil shop is closed. I believe Alan Flusser and Oxxford carry Edward Green privately labeled, as does Ralph Lauren as Purple Label.

    Jay Kos carries Weston and Edward Green. Weston also has their own shop, as does Lobb. Saks also carries Edward Green.

    Someone also posted a while back about there being a Lattanzi shop in Manhattan as well. Perhaps someone who lives there can help.
     


  3. The_Foxx

    The_Foxx Senior member

    Messages:
    3,903
    Likes Received:
    1,910
    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2002
    Location:
    Northern VA, USA
    i really liked the shoes at Dunhill, on 5th Ave. I bought two pairs of them, which are made by New and Lingwood in England...recently bought a pair of black captoes, as well.
     


  4. VWpete

    VWpete Senior member

    Messages:
    200
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2002
    Lattanzi is up by where I was working this summer. If I'm not mistake, 71-72nd and Madison. Santoni is a block away as well.
     


  5. LabelKing

    LabelKing Senior member

    Messages:
    25,745
    Likes Received:
    238
    Joined:
    May 24, 2002
    Location:
    Constantinople
    Could you clarify tht the Dormeuil store is actually closed or just for renovation, etc?

    Also I believe that Dunhill's shoes are by Poulsen Skone.

    As for other shoes you can go to the Hermes store where they will have Hermes shoes, and John Lobb also. There is also the company Belgian Shoes which is quite exclusive, and has it's only store in New York.

    I don't know if Manolo Blahnik still produces men's lines but you could cehck them out too or call in advance.
     


  6. Steve B.

    Steve B. Go Spurs Go

    Messages:
    10,284
    Likes Received:
    125
    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2002
    Location:
    San Antonio
    LK:

    I went looking for the Dormeuil shop at the address listed in May. Sign on the door stated the store was closed. Called info, checked yellow pages, no luck. Also Jack Simpson is now with Oxxford. (Very nice man I might add, got to meet him at a trunk show here at N-M in SF right before the Milennium- the consummate gentleman).
     


  7. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    4,582
    Likes Received:
    12
    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2003
    As Bengal Stripe has pointed out before, New & Lingwood/Poulsen & Skone do not make shoes - thier shoes are made by Edward Green, Alfred Sargent and Crockett & Jones depending on the model. I believe that the Poulsen & Skone for Dunhill shoes are made by Edward Green but I cannot say for sure.

    As far as French brands go you will probably be able to find Fenestrier, Paraboot and perhaps Hardrige but they have nothing on Weston. IMO the best French ready-to-wear shoes are made by Aubercy but to my knowledge they are not available in new York. Too bad as they are incredible shoes..
     


  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Senior member

    Messages:
    682
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2003
    I can confirm that it closed as I used to get stuff there. They moved back into the business of selling fabric. If you're super desperate for word from the horse's mouth, the number I have for them is 212-685-6335 and I believe they're working out of 232 Madison Ave. (at 37th St.), suite 805, but I am relying on some old notes I have.
     


  9. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    1,802
    Likes Received:
    46
    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    I was at the Oxxford shop on Saturday, and the salesman told me that they had discontinued carrying Edward Green shoes [​IMG] . He said that they had gotten fed up with Edward Green's notoriously slow supply chain. I had to go to Ralph Lauren and Saks to get my Edward Green fix. The salesman at Saks also expressed extreme frustration about the speed (or lack thereof) with which EG filled orders. Of course, he did have a pair in E width (Saks mostly carries D widths for some strange reason) in my size, and he did make a sale.
     


  10. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    1,802
    Likes Received:
    46
    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    I took a look at the Poulsen Skone shoes at Dunhill, and they don't look like they're made by Edward Green (and at $495/pair, they're not priced like it either). Perhaps what is sold in Great Britain under the Poulsen Skone label is different from what Dunhill sells under that label in the US. They also don't look like Grenson or Crockett & Jones to me. Perhaps they're made by Alfred Sargent.

    I found out about Aubercy from looking at the souliers.net website that bengal-stripe mentioned once. I agree that they make some wonderful-looking shoes. I sent e-mail to M. Aubercy asking about availability in the US, and he replied very graciously that their shoes are only sold in France.
     


  11. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    1,802
    Likes Received:
    46
    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    Weston and Lobb both have wonderful penny loafer models. You can find Lobb at their store at 680 Madison and at Bergdorf Goodman Men (57th and 5th Avenue). Weston's shop is at 812 Madison Avenue.

    Saks carries a nice chestnut penny loafer from Edward Green, and Paul Stuart (45th and Madison) has a couple of nice models from Grenson.
     


  12. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    4,455
    Likes Received:
    877
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2002
    Location:
    London, UK
    I don't know about the relationship between Dunhill and New & Lingwood/Poulsen Skone. Here in London there is none. Dunhill is right next to N&L on Jermyn Street and none of Dunhill's London stores and concessions carries any shoes. It is possible that Dunhill's owners Vendome/Richemont have acquired N&L, but it is also possible they have a licence to market the name. These are the shoes sold in N&L's London store under the Poulsen Skone name and they are made by Edward Green (and are, of course, in the same financial league as EG shoes). http://www.newandlingwood.co.uk/iashop.....gory=16 I believe some are based on Cleverley designs. For example the "Oxford Medaillion" is actually a wholecut shoe (one piece of leather) and has topstitching to make it look like an ordinary balmoral.
     


  13. marc39

    marc39 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2003
    The John Lobb shop on Madison Ave. is not the London Lobb but the Hermes Lobb/PAris. There shoes are way over-priced for average quality shoes.

    Oxxford on 57th St. is phasing out Edward Green shoes and when I stopped in recently, they discouraged me from even trying on the remaining stock.

    Weston: I really like Westons and have purchased several pair from the MAd. Ave. shop. Be sure to use the salesman who is either Indian or Pakistani--he's very, very knowledgeable and very cordial.

    Jay Kos--Dislike this store immensely. Very stuffy, very pompous attitude as if they're doing you a favor by taking your money. Also, stuffy in the literal sense in that the place looks like an old attic--stuff strewn all over the place. As regards Edward Green shoes at JK, I would not buy EG shoes anywhere except at EG in London as EG sizing is fairly complx, what with various lasts, etc. I would not trust JK to measure my feet properly.

    Tanino Crisci--Mad. Ave. Considered by Italians the Rolls Royce of shoes. I own a few pair of TC shoes. Very pricey and the sizing is a bit peculiar, but I'm told this is common with Italian shoes. I believe they are made in small quantities. This is their only US store.

    JP Tods--Mad. Ave. Very fashionable, especially among Italians, but very pricey--Not worth the price as they are factory made. Yes, I have a pair of brown suede boots which I enjoy as they're very comfortable due to their rubber sole, but they are still not worth the exhorbitant price. They do run sales during the year.

    Paul Stuart--Mad. Ave., next door to Brooks Bros. Used to sell Edward Green, now sell Grenson. Very extensive selection. Try to catch their sales.

    Alden--Mad. Ave. near Brooks Bros. Many agree the best American shoe.

    Ralph Lauren--Mad. Ave. Edward Green shoes but with RL's twist.

    Saks--Sells EG shoes, but only a few styles. When I went in recently, they told me I could order any other style through Saks, but there is an 8 MONTH wait. Not sure I'd trust the young salespeople there to properly measure my feet for an EG shoe.

    Bergdorf Goodman Men--Various brands, including obscenely-priced Lattanzi shoes and Gucci.

    Lattanzi--Mad. Ave.

    Timberland--Mad. Ave--Sadly, Timberland now makes junk, made somewhere in the far East.

    Brooks Bros--Mad Ave. Peale. I'm told that Peale, a once great house, no longer is.

    There are several other general shoe stores but I don't know their names. Hope this helps.
     


  14. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

    Messages:
    1,802
    Likes Received:
    46
    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    Average quality? Hardly. Along with Edward Green, John Lobb Paris shoes are the finest ready-made British shoes available.

    Who cares if they can measure your feet properly? With shoes, the proof is in the trying-on. If they fit when they're on your feet, why does it matter if the salesman can't use a Brannock Device worth a damn?

    Tod's driving mocs start at $345. That's not cheap, and you may be able to find better-made similarly-style shoes for the same price, but it's hardly exhorbitant.

    Nobody in the United States carries more than a handful of Edward Green styles. Saks is hardly the only retailer that can't get EG shoes in a timely manner. The Oxxford store in Manhattan discontinued EG shoes because of the supply problems. I've heard that Paul Stuart did the same. I've been waiting for my Edwardian Antique Dovers on the 808 last for 6.5 months now, and that's hardly surprising.

    Adam Derrick/To Boot leases the Bergdorf Goodman shoe department. They also carry Mantellassi, Lobb, and (surprisingly enough) To Boot.

    Starting a few years ago and up until this season, Brooks Brothers Peal shoes were made by Crockett & Jones. They were very nice shoes and represented pretty good value. This season's Peal shoes are of similar quality, but the interior markings and other manufacturing details lead me to believe that someone else is making them now.
     


  15. marc39

    marc39 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    85
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2003
    Excuse me, but John Lobb's ready made shoes are grossly over-priced. Call it the "Hermes effect." $800--$1,000+ for shoes churned out in a factory in Northampton are a r-i-p
    o-f-f. JM Weston is a much, much better value. And, how absurd of you to state that the measuring technique, or lack thereof, at Jay Kos is irrelevant. Puh-lease. When I spend several hundred dollars for a pair of shoes that will last many years, you bet I want to be fitted by an expert. Now, go play in the traffic.
     


Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by