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shoes for fledgling professional wardrobe

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by cl5, May 7, 2005.

  1. RIDER

    RIDER Senior member

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    Unfortunately, strictly speaking, you are wrong. 'Goodyear' is a method...the machine came about to speed up factory production of this method. Also, a welt is a welt - it's not made in any particular way.
     
  2. alchimiste

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    Sorry, I meant feather meant welt.
     
  3. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    To Boot's a brand, not a manufacturer, and I've seen many different quality levels in the shoes. Some are very forgettable, some are decent.
     
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    (alchimiste @ May 09 2005,22:01) When I asked about these Manton told me they are rather overpriced. And Nordstrom did not have my size anyway.
    To Boot's a brand, not a manufacturer, and I've seen many different quality levels in the shoes. Some are very forgettable, some are decent.
    Looking at their website it appears that their prices have gone up significantly. I bought my current black calfskin lace-ups at Saks for the normal price of $225 and wouldn't pay much more than that for To Boot shoes. Not sure where this $350+ thing is coming from, but at around the $200 price point, I think you get a great looking, well made shoe. (FWIW, the Saks guy a year or so ago when I last purchased a pair agreed that they were some of the best you could get for the money)
     
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    Rider,

    Nice ones. I wear Alden 10 1/2. How does that convert to Borgioli?

    Thanks,

    John
     
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    Thanks. As far as I am aware, it should be the same size...10.5. I don't carry Alden, so I am not familiar with all of their lasts.
     
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    I wear Alden 10 1/2. Â How does that convert to Borgioli?
    Thanks. Â As far as I am aware, it should be the same size...10.5. Â I don't carry Alden, so I am not familiar with all of their lasts.
    The site has the sizes listed as: 42.5 - M 43 - M 43.5 - M 44.5 - M 45 - M 45.5 - M 46 - M
     
  8. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Um, not sure if this is helpful, but 43.5 *usually* corresponds to a 10.5 US, though there are exceptions.
     
  9. johnapril

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    Thanks, LA.
     
  10. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm a US 12 and I generally take a 46.
     
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    I am a 10.5 US and this has been my experience.
     
  13. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I am a 10.5 or 11 US, and the corresponding Italian size is nearly always 43.5 and 44, respectively. In sneakers, this is nearly uniform. In other shoes, sometimes a 10.5 is also marked a 44 (or vice versa). I've never seen a 10.5 US marked as corresponding to an Italian 44.5...
     
  14. johnnynorman3

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    I normally wear an 11 in Italian shoes and get a 44.5. Seems to be a bit of discord here.
     
  15. RIDER

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    Ahh, sorry - I forgot I had the site labeled in EU sizes...

    44.5 is a 10.5

    Generally speaking -

    47=13
    46=12
    45.5=11.5
    45=11
    44.5=10.5
    44=10
    43.5=9.5
    43=9
    42.5=8.5
    42=8
    41.5=7.5
    41=7
     
  16. jcusey

    jcusey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm a 10D US, and depending on the last and maker, I'm usually either a 43.5 (most Vass lasts) or a 44 (Vass U-lasts, the one Borgioli last that I've tried).
     
  17. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Depends on the width of the shoe and of your foot - for most Italian shoes, Rider's list is the one to go by. I wish more makers would acknowledge that - a 45 is NOT a 12 in most makes, drives me nuts... The marked sizes on most brands work only for people with ideally shaped, and probably narrow(ish) feet.

    For more standard widths/last shapes, shift the list up 1/2 size.
     
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    Cleav Senior member Moderator

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    In my humble opinion...

    Quality counts, whatever our age, profession or bank balance.

    Men who know there stuff would look at them and not take you seriously. On the other hand a pair of Crockett & Jones Hangrades (E.G. Weymouth in antique brown and then Aintree in Black alternated) will be a stand out choice noticed by the discerning and quietly admired by those with no idea.
     
  19. ginlimetonic

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    in summary, you can tell a man by his shoes...
     
  20. ginlimetonic

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    l love those style of shoes. l have afew Pradas that look like those. The problem is that they are only average quality (not bad though). l say; wear them with your suits to the bank. There is nothing wrong with those.

    to be honest, I've quite new to shoes but i find them very plain and boring. If you're buying Prada or Gucci, its 95% goes to buying the label and 5% goes to quality and craftsmanship
     

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