i agree with jn3 as well... i'm in my late 20's. i pretty much have two sets of shoes - those from before 3 years ago (Kenneth Cole and BR and other junk) and those from the period since (AE, C&J polo's, Grenson). Even with jeans, the traditional stuff looks and feels better. (I like an AE split toe monk - either brown or black - with half-commando sole for going out at night). the first group have been turned into bad weather shoes. And with a suit? Not even close. You really look more professional with true dress shoe.