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Shoes: C&J or Carmina?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mac, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. Mac

    Mac Senior member

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    I'm stuck between my next shoe purchase:

    Crockett & Jones Hallam:

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    or, Carmina Black Punched Captoe Oxford:

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    While I prefer the styling of the Carmina shoes, how do they compare in quality?
     
  2. Viral

    Viral Senior member

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    tough one...........can't go wrong either way, and the pricing is almost on par.

    Get both!!
     
  3. aj_del

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    ^^ I thought the Hallam would be cheaper
     
  4. Mac

    Mac Senior member

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    The Carmina are £307 from The Armoury, and I can get the C&J for £200. Is it worth the extra £100 to go with Carmina? I really want to. Please justify it for me. [​IMG] Regarding quality, are they both on par?
     
  5. Viral

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    ^^ I thought the Hallam would be cheaper

    from what I understand, the US-dollar equivalent for both would work out to be within $50 or so, after takes, shipping, duties, etc.
     
  6. Mac

    Mac Senior member

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    ^^ I thought the Hallam would be cheaper

    I know a girl who works at Kurt Geiger, so I can get the Hallams for £200. But, I want the Carmina shoes.
     
  7. aj_del

    aj_del Senior member

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    The Carmina is 487 USD plus shipping. The Hallam is 377 USD including shipping. I am assuming the OP is based in the US
     
  8. Mac

    Mac Senior member

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    I'm in the UK.
     
  9. aj_del

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    I had the Hallams in brown but sold them. I didnt like their shape. I have the Prestwood (same last but a blucher) and I really like it.
     
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    I would go with Carmina. Unless you have access to their stores in Paris or Spain, there hasn't been a place to buy online in about 5 years. Not to mention those shoes are awesome.
     
  11. SpooPoker

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    Quality? Sure the quality is there. However, unless you plan to wear these shoes for the next 15 years daily and run them into the ground, I think that either one at this level would not fall apart. Dont concern yourself so much with "quality" - get which one you like looking at better.
     
  12. Raoul Duke

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    I would buy the C&J.
     
  13. Mac

    Mac Senior member

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    Quality? Sure the quality is there. However, unless you plan to wear these shoes for the next 15 years daily and run them into the ground, I think that either one at this level would not fall apart. Dont concern yourself so much with "quality" - get which one you like looking at better.

    Thanks Spoo, that's what I wanted to hear.

    Poll added.
     
  14. Mac

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    I had the Hallams in brown but sold them. I didnt like their shape. I have the Prestwood (same last but a blucher) and I really like it.

    Were they too elongated?
     
  15. Sanguis Mortuum

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    For a black shoe like this I much prefer the style and last of the Carmina.
     
  16. aj_del

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    ^^ I have 2 other shoes on the 348/358 and they look fine to my eye. But something about the Hallam didnt appeal
     
  17. Xiaogou

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    ^^ I thought the Hallam would be cheaper
    Try the C&J Audley in the handgrade line or better yet, the Belgrave or Welbeck. IMO, it is hard to beat the 337 last from C&J.
     
  18. upnorth

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    The Carmina are £307 from The Armoury, and I can get the C&J for £200. Is it worth the extra £100 to go with Carmina? I really want to. Please justify it for me. [​IMG] Regarding quality, are they both on par?
    I feel the Carminas would be between benchgrade and handgrades C&J but closer to handgrades. There is no doubt they look way better than the hallam. If they are from the Armoury, there is a chance you may be hit with VAT once they reach your shores, you may want to factor that into your decision making. Shipping to UK will cost you another 28 quids. I would in such a case, go with one of C&J handgrades, as suggested by the poster above.
     
  19. Mac

    Mac Senior member

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    If they are from the Armoury, there is a chance you may be hit with VAT once they reach your shores, you may want to factor that into your decision making. Shipping to UK will cost you another 28 quids.
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  20. Newcomer

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    Carmina. Best quality-price ratio in my opinion, and I like the shape of the lasts compared to my C&J's. But that is just my 2c.
     

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