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Shoe sizing - Differences between brands

T Reven

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Hello

I would like to ask a few questions.

As I mostly order my shoes online, especially from Herringshoes, I am often obsessing about differences in shoe sizes between brands. For example, Loake loafers fit me perfectly in size (UK) 9.5, while for Herring oxfords, use 0.5 size up, and could very well go up one full size. I am aware that the lasts may differ, but the difference really is dramatic, although I was told that they should be similar.

My questions are

(i) if these sizes correspond to a measure in centimetres, so that one could measure one's feet, and to some extent get an idea as to what size, in general would be appropriate (of course, not taking into account width, shape of last).

And

(ii) as part of the reason that I ask this, is that I consider ordering a pair of Ferragamo drivers online, if anyone has any experience with the sizing of this brand?

Lets hear your input
 

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Just as there may be a difference between different brands, there usually is a difference within a brand as well. Of course this all goes back to your foot, the last being used, and remember most brands usually have more than just one last.

I'm not even sure what all brands make shoes for Herring but I do know that Alfred Sargent does. So you may have been actually looking at one pair from Loake and another pair from Alfred Sargent. But regardless, the last will determine the shape and size in conjunction with your foot.

Of course you maybe able to find some sizing advice in the various threads here, and some vendors maybe of assistance as well. However typically it is best to physically try them on in person before purchasing, however when this is not possible try to find a vendor who will accept returns.
 
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Claus

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(i) if these sizes correspond to a measure in centimetres, so that one could measure one's feet, and to some extent get an idea as to what size, in general would be appropriate (of course, not taking into account width, shape of last).

I'm not quite sure if I understand the question correctly, so let me know if the following answer isn't what you were looking for.


  1. As a general rule, maximum foot length is a very good indicator for shoe sizes people actually wear (or try out). For the UK system, converting foot length to shoes sizes and adding 1.5 units works best. I call this the reference size. The allowance of 1.5 units (1 inch or about 13 mm) corresponds to the recommended free space of 1 inch.
  2. There are caveats to the general rule: The closer your reference size is to UK 16, the more likely you're wearing shoes in smaller sizes. The closer your reference size is to UK 6, the more likely you're wearing shoes in larger sizes. This is due to (a) last makers not following the traditional rules for sizing, anymore. And, (b), on average, feet become relatively more narrow (wider), the longer (shorter) they are.
  3. Finally, people often want to buy a particular pair of shoes which is by definition on a particular last that may or may not match their foot shape. Consequently, they sometimes need to size up or down to minimizes the mismatch.

A UK 9.5 reference size corresponds to maximum foot lengths (measured while standing upright) of about 276 to 279 millimeters.
 

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