Shoe Shine Tipping

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  1. Keon

    Keon Well-Known Member

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    The guy across the street in the (large) barber shop charges $7 per the price list on the wall. I was thinking about having him do my shoes.. but I suppose I'd have to give him a $10. It seems awkward to give $9.
     


  2. Silverback

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    The guy across the street in the (large) barber shop charges $7 per the price list on the wall. I was thinking about having him do my shoes.. but I suppose I'd have to give him a $10. It seems awkward to give $9.
    Actually I hate it when that happens. Then you have to actually have $9 in cash or just let him keep the $10. [​IMG]
     


  3. fcuknu

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    I find that 5 bucks is the minimum tip for everything. I cant see giving out less than 5, I feel like an animal.
     


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    Wow, there are some cheap bastards in this thread. I always figured the reason the charge for the shine was so cheap, was so that you can bulk up on the tip. Especially places where you pay at the counter & tip the shiner separately. Bastards.

    There was a couple of nice Hispanic ladies that worked the shine chairs at a shop down on Murray St? & when I went there for a shine they were always thorough & it felt like getting a foot massage. Hell, I think I learned how to shine shoes by watching them. Bastards.

    3 bucks should be at the low-end of the scale. Bastards.
     


  5. Orgetorix

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    When I lived in DC, the closest shine stand charged $8. At that price it was only an occasional splurge for me, and I always tipped $2.

    I only wish I knew of a place to get my shoes shined in Louisville.
     


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    hadamulletonce Senior member

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    I tip about $2-$3 per pair.
     


  7. Chips

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    On my flight out of SFO, the day before Thanksgiving, I paid $7 for a shine that was very well done. I gave him a $10 and thanked him for the first shoe shine I've ever had someone do for me. He took care to do a good job, but I wonder if he was gouging the price a bit, since it was such a busy day at the airport.

    I laughed to myself when seeing so many people sitting down to have the ugliest cheapest shoes shined. When I left, a lady with pleather shoes with velcro straps was sitting down to have them shined. He would work on someone esle's pair while the first coat of wax was drying on mine. All in all, I only saw 5 others getting their shoes done, but I was the only one wearing leather soled shoes.

    Whatever floats your boat.
     


  8. jobro

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    I live in Perth, Western Australia. I have never ever seen a shoe shiner. I was amazed at the website of the guy selling shoe shinning chairs.
     


  9. mr monty

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    So, why the upcharge for shining off the foot? I've always been curious.

    It's harder to shine shoes off the foot. At least it was for me. I was 12 (1960) and worked in a shine parlor on sunday mornings just before going to church.
     


  10. kealani

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    To the person who is afraid of "grossly and unnecessarily" overtipping your shoeshiner, please read this: *I am a full-time, Monday through Friday, professional shoeshiner. *I am an independent contractor. *Shoe shining does not offer healthcare. *Shoe shining does not come with any benefits. *I receive neither vacation nor sick pay. *In fact, I get nothing but my commision on the shine and your tip, generous or otherwise. *Believe me, I'm not getting rich one shoe shine at a time. *Believe me, I'll never get rich, no matter how much you grossly overtip me. *Almost every product I use to shine your shoes is a carcinogen. You're welcome. *I clean dirt, mud, gum, sh#t, and whatever other hideousness you come in with off of your shoes. *I don't ever complain to you about that last one. In fact, you often never know I did it. *Shining shoes is backbreaking, grueling work. *I have pain in every muscle and joint in my body after a busy day shining shoes. *I continually study the art and craft of shoe shining. *I have made it my business to know how to care for and beautify your shoes/leather goods. *I have made it my business to know how NOT to ruin your expensive shoes. *I have made it my business to know how to care for the hand painted finishes on your shoes. *I have made it my business to make you look good. *I converse with you if you want to. I ask you about yourself, and I care about the answer. *I shut up and let you relax and read the paper when I can tell that you need a retreat. *I make you laugh, maybe for the first and only time in your day. *I remember your name when you return. I ask you about your family. *I know far more about your shoes than you do. I freely educate you about your shoes and how best to care for them. You are the recipient of my vast knowledge. *You completely f*#ck your shoes up, scuff them, gouge them, let them get over dry, soak them with rain, etc. etc. - and I fix it all, not with magic, but with SKILL and KNOWLEDGE. *You pay to have your shoes shined, not because you don't want to do it yourself, but because in a million years you could never make your shoes look the way I can. *Furthermore, I am private school educated. I have a genius IQ (no lie). When I converse with you, you are often surprised to find that I am actually (gasp) a human being. *I have found a passion in the art of shoe shining. *I have a clientele that trust me with their $5,000 bespoke John Lobbs, their Berlutis, and Bontonis, and Edward Greens, and ad infinitum. *I have a repeat clientele that routinely tip me $5, $10, $15, $20 ABOVE the price of the shoe shine. Now THAT is style. *Every customer who leaves my shop cannot believe how good their shoes look. *When you stiff me for a tip, because you are offended that you actually have to pay me to perform this menial task for you, I take it with a gracious smile. *Most shoe shiners, especially the ones in New York, are immigrant laborers who shine shoes for the slave wage of $2.50 or $3.00 a shine because they have no rights and no other options. Often, the shops they are working in are completely taking advantage of them, against the law. These shops will take a percentage of the meager $2.50 that they break their back for, so your tips make a HUGE difference in their lives. TIPPING SAYS MORE ABOUT THE TIPPER THAN ABOUT THE JOB OR THE RECIPIENT. IN FACT, TIPPING IS ALWAYS, ENTIRELY, ABOUT THE PERSON GIVING THE TIP. WHO DO YOU WANT TO LET THE WORLD KNOW YOU ARE WITH YOUR GRATUITIES? BELIEVE ME, I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY WHEN YOU ARE A CHEAP ASSHOLE. Having said all of that, I encourage you to please go ahead and "grossly" and "unnecesarily" overtip your shoe shiner. http://www.shineology.blogspot.com http://WWW.ashineandco.com
     


  11. XKxRome0ox

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    considering how much money people spend on their shoes and clothes...
    and for all the snobbery on the forum
    there sure are a lot of cheap ass people around

    a DOLLAR for someone who just worked on your shoes for several minutes?
    people get a dollar or two for just holding the door open at some places

    show some more appreciation for the person who is laboring over your shoes
    and forget percentage based tipping if they're only charging you $2.50 - $3.00

    and if they don't do a good job...
    instead of leaving a crappy tip without any explanation (which will just make you look like a cheap ass), tell them what they're doing wrong
     


  12. MyOtherLife

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    Thank you kealani for sharing the shiners perspective; certainly an eye-opener.
    To any Canadian lurkers....where to get a live shine in Toronto? Anyone?
     


  13. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    To the person who is afraid of "grossly and unnecessarily" overtipping your shoeshiner, please read this:

    *I am a full-time, Monday through Friday, professional shoeshiner.
    *I am an independent contractor.
    *Shoe shining does not offer healthcare.
    *Shoe shining does not come with any benefits.
    *I receive neither vacation nor sick pay.
    *In fact, I get nothing but my commision on the shine and your tip, generous or otherwise.
    *Believe me, I'm not getting rich one shoe shine at a time.
    *Believe me, I'll never get rich, no matter how much you grossly overtip me.
    *Almost every product I use to shine your shoes is a carcinogen. You're welcome.
    *I clean dirt, mud, gum, sh#t, and whatever other hideousness you come in with off of your shoes.
    *I don't ever complain to you about that last one. In fact, you often never know I did it.
    *Shining shoes is backbreaking, grueling work.
    *I have pain in every muscle and joint in my body after a busy day shining shoes.
    *I continually study the art and craft of shoe shining.
    *I have made it my business to know how to care for and beautify your shoes/leather goods.
    *I have made it my business to know how NOT to ruin your expensive shoes.
    *I have made it my business to know how to care for the hand painted finishes on your shoes.
    *I have made it my business to make you look good.
    *I converse with you if you want to. I ask you about yourself, and I care about the answer.
    *I shut up and let you relax and read the paper when I can tell that you need a retreat.
    *I make you laugh, maybe for the first and only time in your day.
    *I remember your name when you return. I ask you about your family.
    *I know far more about your shoes than you do. I freely educate you about your shoes and how best to care for them. You are the recipient of my vast knowledge.
    *You completely f*#ck your shoes up, scuff them, gouge them, let them get over dry, soak them with rain, etc. etc. - and I fix it all, not with magic, but with SKILL and KNOWLEDGE.
    *You pay to have your shoes shined, not because you don't want to do it yourself, but because in a million years you could never make your shoes look the way I can.

    *Furthermore, I am private school educated. I have a genius IQ (no lie). When I converse with you, you are often surprised to find that I am actually (gasp) a human being.
    *I have found a passion in the art of shoe shining.
    *I have a clientele that trust me with their $5,000 bespoke John Lobbs, their Berlutis, and Bontonis, and Edward Greens, and ad infinitum.
    *I have a repeat clientele that routinely tip me $5, $10, $15, $20 ABOVE the price of the shoe shine. Now THAT is style.
    *Every customer who leaves my shop cannot believe how good their shoes look.
    *When you stiff me for a tip, because you are offended that you actually have to pay me to perform this menial task for you, I take it with a gracious smile.
    *Most shoe shiners, especially the ones in New York, are immigrant laborers who shine shoes for the slave wage of $2.50 or $3.00 a shine because they have no rights and no other options. Often, the shops they are working in are completely taking advantage of them, against the law. These shops will take a percentage of the meager $2.50 that they break their back for, so your tips make a HUGE difference in their lives.

    TIPPING SAYS MORE ABOUT THE TIPPER THAN ABOUT THE JOB OR THE RECIPIENT. IN FACT, TIPPING IS ALWAYS, ENTIRELY, ABOUT THE PERSON GIVING THE TIP. WHO DO YOU WANT TO LET THE WORLD KNOW YOU ARE WITH YOUR GRATUITIES? BELIEVE ME, I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY WHEN YOU ARE A CHEAP ASSHOLE.

    Having said all of that, I encourage you to please go ahead and "grossly" and "unnecesarily" overtip your shoe shiner.

    http://www.shineology.blogspot.com


    Hate to say it, but for most of these shoe shiners in New York $2.50 or $3.00 is too much based on what I have seen them do.

    They do this because they have no other options? I don't believe that.
     


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    so i went to the nordstrom in Houston during lunch for a shoe shine. i had 2 pairs done. After the shine, I went for my wallet. I had $10 cash on me when i left the office, but i bought a cookie before getting the shine done (which i forgot about). So i handed the guy $7. He looked a little mad, as I walked away, he mumbled, "Geeze this guy must be from Monterrey"

    I usually pay $5/pair. I almost turned around and asked if he had a problem. But i decided against it because then he would really remember me.

    So how long do i wait until until i go back?


    Sounds like you felt you underpaid him. Go back and make it up next time.
     


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