Hello! I am a rookie that is attempting to improve my shoe polishing skills. Within the past year I have purchased my first and second pairs of nice dress shoes (AE Fifth Ave., AE Strand). Out of the box I brushed, conditioned, used shoe cream, brushed then was able to successfully put a mirror shine on the toes. I really enjoyed the process of working with the shoes so I purchased a few used pairs of AE's to either keep or "fix up" then possibly sell later on. I am really struggling when it comes to putting a mirror shine on the toes. I have ran into the same issue on multiple pairs and have started over the process and still have the same problems. I posted my issues over on Reddit GYW and have had some advice but nothing seems to be working. Figured I'd see if anyone has run into the same issues. I am willing to experiment with anything and I'm not afraid of making mistakes as I've been told it is pretty difficult to completely ruin a pair of leather shoes. I'm just trying to learn and am enjoying the process.
My current process on a used pair of shoes is as follows:
Brush
Lexol cleaner
Brush
Saphir renovateur
Brush
Shoe cream (I've used AE cream and Saphir cream and encountered the same issues) that I've experimented with letting dry several minutes to overnight
Brush
Wipe toe cap off with dry rag and I've also used a damp cloth
Toe cap is dry and feels smooth and glossy prior to attempting to finish toe
Toe cap shine that I've tried Saphir mirror gloss, pate de luxe, and Kiwi waxes
I'm using a clean 100% cotton t-shirt to apply the wax. Initially I start with a fairly small amount (I'm not just touching the rag to the wax as I would once I have several layers of wax applied to the shoe) of wax to the rag and as soon I start rubbing the wax I immediately feel like the polish underneath starts moving and smudging. I am using the lightest touch I possibly can and last night even used my bare finger and was gentle as possible in applying the wax. After applying a very light first layer I notice my rag has what seems to be A LOT of colored polish on it that is coming off of the shoe. I have watched all of the Youtube guys videos on polishing shoes and they indicate it is normal for a little bit of the color to transfer off onto the rag. This color transfer looks excessive to me. After the first layer or layers (I've experimented with multiple initial layers) I dampen my cloth with a drop of ice water and have also tried putting a drop directly on the shoe and start to very gently buff. I immediately feel friction on the top of toe almost like raw rough leather. This always seems to occur directly on the top of the toe and not the sides of the toe. I have continued the process all the way through even though the top of the toe seems ruined and have gotten the mirror finish to come through on the sides of the toe.
It's almost like my cream polish isn't adhering properly but I'm inexperienced and haven't a clue if that is the actual issue. I have applied the shoe cream let it dry overnight, brushed it in the morning, let it sit and brush it again that night. I then wipe with a dry rag and very little residue come off. A damp rag will cause more residue to come off but nothing major. Once that wax touches the toe though it just feels as though the polish underneath melts off.
I can post more photos and update with photos of suggested methods. I have a pair of burgundy shoes I did last night but didn't take pictures. The color transfer to the rag on that one was extremely noticeable. To the point that the burgundy color from the rag would transfer over to the wax in the container. One method I saw while browsing last night was once the first layer of wax is applied to brush instead of buff with a rag. I can certainly try this but again it seems that the smudging that is ruining the process occurs within seconds of the applying the wax. I think the wax is mixing with the polish on the first application thus rendering buffing it out useless?
My current process on a used pair of shoes is as follows:
Brush
Lexol cleaner
Brush
Saphir renovateur
Brush
Shoe cream (I've used AE cream and Saphir cream and encountered the same issues) that I've experimented with letting dry several minutes to overnight
Brush
Wipe toe cap off with dry rag and I've also used a damp cloth
Toe cap is dry and feels smooth and glossy prior to attempting to finish toe
Toe cap shine that I've tried Saphir mirror gloss, pate de luxe, and Kiwi waxes
I'm using a clean 100% cotton t-shirt to apply the wax. Initially I start with a fairly small amount (I'm not just touching the rag to the wax as I would once I have several layers of wax applied to the shoe) of wax to the rag and as soon I start rubbing the wax I immediately feel like the polish underneath starts moving and smudging. I am using the lightest touch I possibly can and last night even used my bare finger and was gentle as possible in applying the wax. After applying a very light first layer I notice my rag has what seems to be A LOT of colored polish on it that is coming off of the shoe. I have watched all of the Youtube guys videos on polishing shoes and they indicate it is normal for a little bit of the color to transfer off onto the rag. This color transfer looks excessive to me. After the first layer or layers (I've experimented with multiple initial layers) I dampen my cloth with a drop of ice water and have also tried putting a drop directly on the shoe and start to very gently buff. I immediately feel friction on the top of toe almost like raw rough leather. This always seems to occur directly on the top of the toe and not the sides of the toe. I have continued the process all the way through even though the top of the toe seems ruined and have gotten the mirror finish to come through on the sides of the toe.
It's almost like my cream polish isn't adhering properly but I'm inexperienced and haven't a clue if that is the actual issue. I have applied the shoe cream let it dry overnight, brushed it in the morning, let it sit and brush it again that night. I then wipe with a dry rag and very little residue come off. A damp rag will cause more residue to come off but nothing major. Once that wax touches the toe though it just feels as though the polish underneath melts off.
I can post more photos and update with photos of suggested methods. I have a pair of burgundy shoes I did last night but didn't take pictures. The color transfer to the rag on that one was extremely noticeable. To the point that the burgundy color from the rag would transfer over to the wax in the container. One method I saw while browsing last night was once the first layer of wax is applied to brush instead of buff with a rag. I can certainly try this but again it seems that the smudging that is ruining the process occurs within seconds of the applying the wax. I think the wax is mixing with the polish on the first application thus rendering buffing it out useless?