Shoe Fit Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kronik, Jul 11, 2006.

  1. NoVaguy

    NoVaguy Senior member

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    Allen Edmonds Park Avenue - US 10 is a good fit but a slight bit too narow. Don't remember what width it is.

    Allen Edmonds Fairfax - US 10.5 is loose at heel


    aren't these last two on the same last?

    I wear a 10.5D as my base size for Allen Edmonds (in the 1, 3, 4, 7 and 8 lasts).
    I have 2 Allen Edmonds 10.5E's that are slightly too wide.

    Bruno Magli chelseas - 10.5 M
    Brooks Brothers Peal - 10.5 D
    Brooks Brothers/Sebago penny loafer - 10.5 D
    Polo double buckle captoe monk - 10.5 D
    Polo Darlton shell cordovan wingtip - 10.5 D (tight at the vamp)
    Polo shell cordovan Jodhpur - 10.5 D - (less tighter in the vamp)
    I have or have worn a few other polo's - all 10.5 D.
    All of my other cheap shoes are 10.5 M or D.
    The sole alden I ever owned was also 10.5 D
    RLPL Camden by EG - a monkstrap on the 89 last - size 10/10.5D - fits fine.
    Stuart's Choice (Paul Stuart, made by Grenson, suede elastic slip-on) - 10.5D - fits fine.

    UK market shoes:
    C&J 337 Last 9.5E (UK)
    Grenson Masterpiece Rugby 9.5F (E width would probably be better)
    Grenson Footmaster Jodhpur 10E (9.5 would be a lot better)

    Edited: 2/15/2007 - added two new shoes - the RLPL by EG and Stuart's Choice
     


  2. Dragon

    Dragon Senior member

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    Of course I am no expert, but from what I hear it is better to buy your shoes on the snug side and not with a loose fit. I think the reasoning is that the leather will stretch a little after a few wears, and the bottom of the shoes will sink a bit and mold to your feet. Also wearing shoes on the looser side encourages creasing marks.

    In addition, many lasts are designed to hold your feet tightly on the upper area around the strings to prevent your foot from sliding forward.

    If your toe area or the widest area of your feet are too tight, then you should just get a wider shoe.
     


  3. kitonbrioni

    kitonbrioni Senior member

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    There is no true size for shoes/boots. I have a range of sizes. Try them on; walk around in them; if the shoe fits, then buy it.
     


  4. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    aren't these last two on the same last?
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    Don't know; you could be right. I tried on the Fairfax at some shop, I don't remember what width it was so that was probably a factor.
     


  5. billiebob

    billiebob Senior member

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    I measure US 11D - 11E on a Brannock device. I have a high arch, so I can't wear loafers. I wear 11D sneakers and in almost all shoes. I'll list the size marked in the shoe then my impressions.

    1. Polo Darlton, calf and cordo US 11D - tight everywhere for months, now OK
    2. Brooks Alden cordo plaintoe US 10.5D - perfect fit.
    3. Grenson masterpiece UK 10.5E/F - perfect fit
    4. Tyrwhitt Loake 026 last UK 10F - was tight for a month, now perfect
    5. Tyrwhitt Loake suede brogues UK10.5F- now a bit too loose all around.
    6. Ed Green for Asprey UK11/US11.5 E202- comfortable, but a little big
    7. Ed Green for Asprey UK10.5/US11 E202 - was snug, now perfect.
    8. Lattanzi for Asprey UK 10.5D - good fit, a little tight in the vamp.
     


  6. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

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    Don't know; you could be right. I tried on the Fairfax at some shop, I don't remember what width it was so that was probably a factor.

    The Park Avenue and the Fairfax are indeed on the same last--the #5, which happens to be A-E's narrowest.
     


  7. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    The Park Avenue and the Fairfax are indeed on the same last--the #5, which happens to be A-E's narrowest.

    Which would mean that the Fairfax I had tried on must have been a wider size. Thanks.
     


  8. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    New info:

    Allen Edmonds Hastings - US 10 D is almost perfect

    Allen Edmonds Fairfax - US 10 D is almost perfect
     


  9. rbny

    rbny Senior member

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    Alden of Carmel:

    Plaza last (AF23 and 36): US 9D (B/D)

    Crockett and Jones:

    337 last: UK 8E
    325 last: UK 8.5E

    New Balance :

    SL-1 Fit (991/992 running shoes): US 10.5D

    Adidas:

    Sambas: US 10.5D
    GSG9 Boots: US 10D

    Converse:

    Chuck Taylors: US 9.5D
     


  10. kronik

    kronik Senior member

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    If you own Crockett and Jones 337 and the C&J made Polo, what are your sizes? Looking for reference for eBay bid.
     


  11. pkincy

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    I have the Polo Benton and the Polo Tellman both in US 9D.

    I have the C&J Weymouth in UK 8.5E. It is, I believe, on the C&J 337 last.

    I have no idea what last the Tellman and Benton are on.

    The Weymouth fits a bit loose and the Tellman and Benton are a bit to a lot tight.

    They Weymouth is near brand new and I have worn the Tellman and Benton about 5 days each so they are more broken in.

    So my normal conversion of US 9D to UK 8.5E is a little bit suspect here. I might guess that the Polo is more of a US 9C or UK 8.5D. It is the same length as the Weymouth but is tighter across the ball of the foot.

    I frankly find the UK sourced 8.5E is quite a bit bigger than the Polo marked 9 medium.

    Perry
     


  12. yachtie

    yachtie Senior member

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    Alden varies considerably depending on last:

    Aberdeen Last:11 1/2 EE (Glovelike in calf, looser in shell)
    Barrie Last: 11 1/2 E (Low instep, like me, may need a tongue pad)
    Tru-Balance last:11 1/2 D ("Indy" boots)

    AE Hampton:11 1/2 E (nice fit!)
     


  13. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    New information, also edited my prior post:

    RM Williams Stockman kangaroo leather buckle boots (jodphur boots) - 9f Australian/UK size. Snug fit mid foot, very slight heel looseness but very comfy.
     


  14. NoVaguy

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    If you own Crockett and Jones 337 and the C&J made Polo, what are your sizes? Looking for reference for eBay bid.

    because skalogre wishes "people updated [this] thread more"

    check my post above - i have these two. basically, marked 10.5D for C&J made polo, marked 9.5E for C&J 337.

    also, i'll be updating my post as well to reflect two new purchases.

    EG for RLPL 89 last - Camden - size 10/10.5D - fits fine.
    Stuart's Choice (Paul Stuart, made by Grenson) - 10.5D - fits fine.
     


  15. skalogre

    skalogre Senior member

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    because skalogre wishes "people updated [this] thread more"

    check my post above - i have these two. basically, marked 10.5D for C&J made polo, marked 9.5E for C&J 337.

    also, i'll be updating my post as well to reflect two new purchases.

    EG for RLPL 89 last - Camden - size 10/10.5D - fits fine.
    Stuart's Choice (Paul Stuart, made by Grenson) - 10.5D - fits fine.


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    Thanks!
     


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