this is what I meant by American- chunky, derby wing-tip (and this is cordo too- but that's optional) ...... not a bauxite in two grains (nice shoe BTW) Edit: not piling on F here, but... Damn this Dover is a nice shoe. It's all about balance. the counter is the piece de resistance. not split - rare in a traditional English shoe - and from the rear gives the counter weight. The double stitch arabesque is the lateral balance the shoe needs. The double sole's consistent with the overall 'heaviness' of the shoe. I really hate to see 3 fonts on a page, but the stitching thing is part of the charm- the pie crust is awsm craft, and functional on the vamp, and only there, because of the nature of the join; the stitch at the facing has to be single- wouldn't work as double because the function of the double stitching at the counter is to visually balance the vamp.