jobro
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The big difference u don't mention (AFAIK- and could be dated info) is that the benchgrades are made with French calf, and the Handgrades with German. German calf is recognized as superior.
You probably are correct. Do you know in what ways the German calf is superior?
Lattanzi
is there such a big difference beside the open channeled sole?
Not much love for the Trickers in most of the Top collections i've seen. Not that they're "disliked", but I think they are really at the top of their game in the Country Shoe department... I wanna see more posted here... especially if anyone has any older pairs.
no. i'm by no means an leather expert. i have a guy who consults me, when i feel the need. he told me a few things, though.
what he told me is, that you cannot generalize between italy, germany, france and austria. it depends almost on the tannery.
a little anecdote: a friend of mine, who had some shoes made at JL St. James was directed into the leather chamber by mr. lobb. one of his favorite leathers was from a small producer in austria. he didn't tell my friend the name. unfortunately, i haven't seen this pair yet.
what he told me is, that you cannot generalize between italy, germany, france and austria. it depends almost on the tannery.
I also have a fantatical love of the closed channel sole. (I know that it is irrational)
I did not read the other responses prior to putting mine in--agree leathers are better for the handgrade. That said, tough to beat the C&J bench grade shoe. I think the 341 last creates a great workhorse business shoe.
I have spoken with a few tanners and a few shoemakers and what I have learned is the two biggest things that matter with leathers are the diet of the calf and the amount of sun shine they see during their life. Calf from mountaineous regions have softer hides do to the shade available. To me, this validates your Austrian thesis. Nothing beats a drive in those mountain passes in Austria--ok, skiing does.
I can't help but register my agreement with my erstwhile foe--and erstwhile friend. I think Trickers get a bad rap here. For those with a standard foot Trickers do not work so well. If you have a wider foot Trickers are a great shoe. I bought a pair, they did not fit well, but they were of high quality.
like a good wine.
next time you're here. please let me know.