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Shoe Damage Report & Shoe P0rn Central - Part II

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Oyaji, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. joshuadowen

    joshuadowen Senior member

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    Ugly is ugly.
     
  2. LynahFaithful

    LynahFaithful Senior member

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    Then don't buy them.
     
  3. VRaivio

    VRaivio Senior member

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    Good God this fritzl fellow is one negative character. So many ways to puff off the old passive-aggressiveness, and he chooses SF. Pfft.
     
  4. bengal-stripe

    bengal-stripe Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    "One man's meat is another man's poison."

    Nothing is (objectively) 'ugly' unless you (subjectively) perceive it that way.
    Good taste is always one's own, bad taste is always someone else's. :D :D :D
     
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  5. isshinryu101

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    what is your problem? The sole treatment is nowhere as important as the work on the uppers. Corrected grain leather stitched together by a myopic shoemaker (stole that one from DWFII), but placed on a closed channel sole with the G&G treatment ? Good choice.

    Open Channel vs closed channel is 99% a question of aesthetics. You have absolutely no idea what I know or don't know. Newb? WTF? I've owned and worn more shoes in the last YEAR than you probably have in your lifetime. AND, although my opinions are based on PERSONAL EXPERIENCE in a wide breadth of makers and stylings (from EG to Lobb to C&J to AS to Santoni to Lattanzi... AND the Vintage 1920's- 1950's shoes you HATE but have never actually owned or worn), yours are based on a self-inflated ego trip.

    You need to focus on your internet porn collection again and try to get carpal tunnel in the OTHER wrist rather than trying to "insult" me.
     
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  6. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    this is not necessary
     
  7. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    FYI, I'm actually a fan of the "chunky-style" shoes... and I've taken my share of "they're ugly" and the like comments. I was just noting that that particular style has been replaced with the sleek lines of G&G and the like as the "prime choice" of many SF'ers.

    No insult intended.
     
  8. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Senior member

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    Agreed.
     
  9. Kemper

    Kemper Well-Known Member

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    Here a picture of the same shoes with the original chestnut burnishing [​IMG]
     
  10. lychyrychy

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    What you say is pretty subjective. In general, closed-channel stitching takes more work and skills to accomplish, therefore it costs more to make. Given a choice, I would go with closed-channel stitching every time because to me, it's elegant and slick. Why do you think only on more expensive brand as you mentioned from EG to Lobb that they always offer closed-stiching channel?

    Some people don't care for it, maybe because they're close-minded or whatever the reason might be, but it's hard to argue that closed-channel stitching is cheap to make. At $200 dollars, having it is quite amazing to me.

    Admittedly, the upper leather isn't on par with EG or Lobb, I'm not going to talk about upper leather because that's not the point of my post. :)
     
  11. isshinryu101

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    I wasn't responding to you there.

    I personally LIKE closed-channel stitching. It is usually a sign that the maker cared about every detail of the shoes. Of those makers I listed above, each offers closed stitching in its' TOP line. Again, a sign that they are paying closer attention to detail in their top offerings.

    However, GIVEN A CHOICE of where one would rather the maker spent manufacturing dollars, uppers or closed channel sole, it seems like a no-brainer. Would you trade a lower quality upper for closed stitching sole? OR, would you trade upper stitch quality (close, straight, uniform) for closed channel soles?

    My only point was that in order to sell a pair of shoes for $200, the maker MUST be saving money somewhere in order to still make a profit. If they're paying xtra money for the sole treatment, they MUST be saving it elsewhere in order to still make a profit. All things equal, I like close channel. In a $200 shoe, I'd prefer they spend the money on the construction and the uppers. Soles is last on my priority list.
     
  12. lychyrychy

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    i agree, given a choice, I rather have superior upper leather than closed-channel stitching every time. It was just a surprise to me that Markowski had this sole finish. At 200 bucks the upper leather cannot be compared to EG or Lobb and I have already mentioned that.

    I replied because I thought you went pretty aggressive there. We're all here to be friendly haha:foo:
     
  13. mcarthur

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    thank you
     
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  14. Burton

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    I really like that shoe. I am sure there are people here who believe it is boring but to me it is perfect.
     
  15. mcarthur

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    beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
     
  16. mcarthur

    mcarthur Senior member

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    [​IMG]
    ravello medallion cap toe
    argyles otc
     
  17. rikod

    rikod Senior member

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    I like it too, both the shape and the color, don't find it boring.
     
  18. ThinkDerm

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    wow. how'd you alter the colour
     
  19. meister

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    They all look the same with a nice new Topy attached...:lol:
     
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  20. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    You know, I used to go to visit the CBD thread to watch arguments....
     

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