Shoe Damage Report & Shoe P0rn Central - Part II

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Oyaji, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. Wes Bourne

    Wes Bourne Senior member

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    Well my "shoe people" thread was a targeted strike at the issue but I guess it did not have the potency that I thought.

    Here is my issue. Expensive shoes are an affordable luxury - they sit around a price point that given a certain level of income are accessible to just about everyone. The problem is instead of investing in expensive quality shoes that will withstand trends or fads people go apeshit and buy things with buttons, side laces, butterfly fronts, two-or-three tone, green, blue, purple suede, etc. In other words, I see a lot of it as throwing good money away. And I'm not speaking about this from an ivory tower, I've done it myself with regret.

    My advice is this - next time your faced with a "great" buying opportunity for a pair of purple suede shoes - stop, think and step away. Do this three or four times in a row and then use the combined money to buy a pair of Lobb City II or EG Westminsters. You'll thank me in the long run.


    Have you been hanging out with the [​IMG]?

    While this is not the drunken rant I was hoping for to bring the afternoon lulz, I do understand your point and somewhat agree...

    But what if someone has all the basics covered? Alternately, have you considered that some have tastes that do not tend towards the classics? Btw, I don't consider Lobb's museum calf to be classic. Sure, it's instantly recognizable by shoe geeks, but not really classic imo. Fwiw, I'm not a huge fan, but would make an exception for a pair of these Towcesters.
     


  2. whnay.

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    But what if someone has all the basics covered? Alternately, have you considered that some have tastes that do not tend towards the classics? Btw, I don't consider Lobb's museum calf to be classic. Sure, it's instantly recognizable by shoe geeks, but not really classic imo. Fwiw, I'm not a huge fan, but would make an exception for a pair of these Towcesters.

    90% of the folks buying what I describe do not have the basics covered, not by any stretch of the imagination. I will let others judge whether or not purple suede or side laced shoes are in good taste. I wasn't referring to the City II in the brown you described - dark brown or black calf is classic.
     


  3. ohm

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    90% of the folks buying what I describe do not have the basics covered, not by any stretch of the imagination. I will let others judge whether or not purple suede or side laced shoes are in good taste. I wasn't referring to the City II in the brown you described - dark brown or black calf is classic.

    But the classics never go on sale. \t[​IMG]
     


  4. Orgetorix

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    [​IMG]

    Too bad about that stiff, laterally inflexible pegged waist. I bet it's gemmed too--gonna blow up on you any minute now.
     


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    Just realized: that's not their current nail pattern is it? Is the lining very light blue or grey?

    I understand this nail pattern was standard a little while back. Others may be better placed to comment.

    The lining is the light blue normally used to compliment midnight calf uppers.
     


  7. Horatio

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    Love the one with side laces and pegged waist, is it available in shop in Paris or online?
    There are showrooms in Paris and an online shop. The link above should point you there... I won't stir up any more dust [​IMG]

    I like the greenish color. The shoes look really good and would be great with linen this time of year.
    That's what I bought them for. Linen, chinos and white denim in the summer, works for me.

    How do the Markowski shoes fit? Similar to any other well know lasts?
    The lasts in their standard width "E" are quite slim compared to the "F" fit lasts of the usual suspects.

    Here is my issue. Expensive shoes are an affordable luxury - they sit around a price point that given a certain level of income are accessible to just about everyone.
    My advice is this - next time your faced with a "great" buying opportunity for a pair of purple suede shoes - stop, think and step away. Do this three or four times in a row and then use the combined money to buy a pair of ...

    I basically agree with you but I don't see any argument against seasonal stuff if the basics are well covered - with a rotation that's based on more than two or three pairs, otherwise the 'quality' shoes will be burned quickly by mistreating them with constant wear.
    And if we really discuss quality shoes giving a lifetime of ~20 years+ I would exclude gem-tape / therm-toe constructions disqualifying 99.9% of all shoes available?

    Too bad about that stiff, laterally inflexible pegged waist. I bet it's gemmed too--gonna blow up on you any minute now.
    Well, we'll see [​IMG] I don't expect anything else than a gemmed construction.

    No blue suede [​IMG]
    Too bad [​IMG]

    Cheers
     


  8. Wes Bourne

    Wes Bourne Senior member

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    I understand this nail pattern was standard a little while back. Others may be better placed to comment.

    The lining is the light blue normally used to compliment midnight calf uppers.


    Very nice. So is the calf part on those midnight? I just assumed it was black by your pics.
     


  9. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Too bad about that stiff, laterally inflexible pegged waist. I bet it's gemmed too--gonna blow up on you any minute now.
    [​IMG] Lateral: 1. In anatomy, the side of the body or a body part that is farther from the middle or center of the body. Typically, lateral refers to the outer side of the body part, but it is also used to refer to the side of a body part. For example, when referring to the knee, lateral refers to the side of the knee farthest from the opposite knee. The opposite of lateral is medial.[​IMG] http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/SelfApptdExp.htm
     


  10. bengal-stripe

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    I understand this nail pattern was standard a little while back. Others may be better placed to comment.

    That nail pattern (with the double row along the straight edge of the rubber corner) was used in the early/mid 2000s (exclusively, I believe) for RLPL shoes. From that time, I have a made-to-order pair, where I asked (and got) heels with that particular pattern.

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    The current nail pattern EG uses (unless they've changed it recently) is a single row along the rubber edge and the other nails in groups of threes.

    The lining is the light blue normally used to compliment midnight calf uppers.

    The pale blue lining is actually the unfinished and only pre-dyed crust leather that gets dyed to that navy finish of the final shoe. (The crust leather for some of the red tones like "˜bauxite"˜ is almost pink.)
     


  11. UnFacconable

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    You win for ironic post of the day. Do you really think that your anatomical definition is the only one that exists? Main Entry: 1lat·er·al Pronunciation: \\ˈla-tə-rəl also ˈla-trəl\\ Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English laterale, from Latin lateralis, from later-, latus side Date: 15th century 1 : of or relating to the side 2 : situated on, directed toward, or coming from the side 3 : extending from side to side <the lateral axis of an airplane> 4 : produced with passage of breath around the side of a constriction formed with the tongue <\\l\\ is lateral>
    [​IMG] Lateral: 1. In anatomy, the side of the body or a body part that is farther from the middle or center of the body. Typically, lateral refers to the outer side of the body part, but it is also used to refer to the side of a body part. For example, when referring to the knee, lateral refers to the side of the knee farthest from the opposite knee. The opposite of lateral is medial.[​IMG] http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/SelfApptdExp.htm
     


  12. Cravate_Noire

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    Some pictures from the Mannina workshop, more in ze Blog: [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     


  13. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    You win for ironic post of the day. Do you really think that your anatomical definition is the only one that exists? Main Entry: 1lat·er·al Pronunciation: \\ˈla-tə-rəl also ˈla-trəl\\ Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English laterale, from Latin lateralis, from later-, latus side Date: 15th century 1 : of or relating to the side 2 : situated on, directed toward, or coming from the side 3 : extending from side to side <the lateral axis of an airplane> 4 : produced with passage of breath around the side of a constriction formed with the tongue <\\l\\ is lateral>
    Are we talking about feet...and by extension shoes...or about airplanes? I believe my definition is wholly apropos. Even using the broader definition, side to side stiffness/rigidity is a good thing--the heel stiffeners and mid liners (which extend from the heel stiffener to the toe stiffener)...if used (as they would be in a well made shoe...are all at the service of side to side rigidity. Pegging the shank, when done with deliberation and care as good and as supportive a method of securing the waist of the shoe (or boot) as any other method. The inappropriateness of the term "lateral" in the context it was used evinces a disturbing lack of understanding of the mechanics of shoe construction. And seriously, a jab...as the original remark was intended...loses a great deal of its efficacy when it is couched in the awkwardness of ignorance.
     


  14. SpooPoker

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    ^^^ I would do anything for that piece of green alligator, as is.
     


  15. Cravate_Noire

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    ^^^ I would do anything for that piece of green alligator, as is.

    [​IMG]
     


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