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Shoe Damage Report & Porn Central - Part I

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by von Rothbart, May 12, 2006.

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  1. Sartorially Challenged

    Sartorially Challenged Senior member

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    Sartorially challenged - I searched and searched and then tried and tried the various formulas for shoe shining, and at least for me, the winning formula is the one St. Crispin's offers on their website. I've gone through my entire 'collection' and applied the same treatment to all. The best advice I have ever taken with regards to shoes is to give them a thorough cleaning and shine before the first wearing. The folds that develop on the first and subsequent wearings just seem to wear more evenly, and subsequent polishings seem to result in a more even finish overall. Hard to explain really.

    I'll get to posting more pics shortly!

    Regards,

    Ryan

    Thank you for the tip!

    My question related more to the techniques of shoe shining you use rather than the products. How long does it take for you to produce a shine like that on a pair?
     


  2. superbikepics

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    The St. Crispin's page on shoe shining goes right to the point of your inquiry. I spend about 45 minutes to an hour getting the shine to the level you saw on the Barker Black Granthams. Subsequent shines take 5-10 minutes, including brushing the dust/dirt out of the welt area. This 45-60 muntes accounts for the total shining and drying time between thin coats of polish. The prep work is done the day before...to wash the shoe with saddle soap, allow to dry, then brush, then give it the turpentine rub-down then let the turpentine dry/evaporate overnight, or at a minimum 4 hours). I hope that helps. I'd estimate I have no more than 3-4 coats of polish on the toe and heel counter, and 2-3 on the rest, less so near the laces, since I like a little bit of shiny/semi-matte contrast on my shoes.

    Regards,

    Ryan
     


  3. Sartorially Challenged

    Sartorially Challenged Senior member

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    The I spend about 45 minutes to an hour getting the shine to the level you saw...
    An hour for a pair! [​IMG]

    Guess I won't be doing that.
     


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    we would never see the shoe fairy again if he tried that...[​IMG]
     


  5. superbikepics

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    Sartorially Challenged - I get you. Never thought I would spend that kind of time, but I force myself to do it with every new pair, before I wear them out for the first time. The 1-hour of effort is like a country club initiation fee (not that I know anything about that), wherein the startup cost is high, but the annual membership fee (in this case, the 5-15 minutes of refreshing after a dozen wearings or so), is worth the continued investment of my time. Or it may be because I'm "sick" and simply find shoe shining a bit therapeutic after the weeklong grind at work.

    You know who notices shined shoes the most, at least so far as my experience is concerned? Older men, women of all ages, and foreigners. Foreigners the most, and I'd suspect it's because shining ones shoes is still a lesson passed on from father to son in places beyond the US border.

    Regards,

    Ryan
     


  6. bigbris1

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    I've got the St. Crispins Pret-a-Porter page bookmarked too-used to use one of the shoes as my avatar. By referencing that page I've been able to get a beautiful shine & patina on my shoes. It takes time but is definitely worth it. Well done Ryan! Edit, it was a shoe from Marc Guyot's page
     


  7. The False Prophet

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    And just for RJ, my wife's cat. For perspective, the hobb is 22 inches from the floor.

    [​IMG]


    Nice antiquing on that cat's tail...
     


  8. william

    william Senior member

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    Sartorially Challenged - I get you. Never thought I would spend that kind of time, but I force myself to do it with every new pair, before I wear them out for the first time. The 1-hour of effort is like a country club initiation fee (not that I know anything about that), wherein the startup cost is high, but the annual membership fee (in this case, the 5-15 minutes of refreshing after a dozen wearings or so), is worth the continued investment of my time. Or it may be because I'm "sick" and simply find shoe shining a bit therapeutic after the weeklong grind at work.

    You know who notices shined shoes the most, at least so far as my experience is concerned? Older men, women of all ages, and foreigners. Foreigners the most, and I'd suspect it's because shining ones shoes is still a lesson passed on from father to son in places beyond the US border.

    Regards,

    Ryan


    I've got the St. Crispins Pret-a-Porter page bookmarked too-used to use one of the shoes as my avatar. By referencing that page I've been able to get a beautiful shine & patina on my shoes. It takes time but is definitely worth it.

    Well done Ryan!

    Edit, it was a shoe from Marc Guyot's page


    Quick question for you guys...

    When St. Crispin's suggests using Saphir, Medaille D'Or shoe cream, do you use a colored cream or a neutral cream?

    It seems that a colored cream would dye the shoe making the patina less apparent.
     


  9. superbikepics

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    wiliam - I use creams for 'odd' colors, like my pewter Barker Blacks. For any of the 'standard' colors, like lt, med, and dk browns, mahogany, black, burgundy, and cordovan, I use polishes. All are Saphir product, except for cordovan, in which case I use Shell 8 polish from Alden. I've not been able to raise a shine quite like I get using polish when using creams. I have not used Crema Alpina, which I hear does give you a good shine as a finisher following several cream coats. I have no personal experience though. One last thing - I don't recall mentioning this before, but I use Saphir's Renovateur cream on shell cordovan afer the turpentine rub down and prior to any coats of polish.

    Hope that helps.

    Regards,

    Ryan
     


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    Vintage Made in Italy for Saks Fifth Ave. Sea Turtle skin Norwegian toe bluchers: [​IMG]
     


  11. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    Nice antiquing on that cat's tail...

    Really tough to make it sit still for the buffing.
     


  12. Eustace Tilley

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    Vintage Made in Italy for Saks Fifth Ave. Sea Turtle skin Norwegian toe bluchers:

    [​IMG]


    Did you steal those from kitonbrioni?
     


  13. LabelKing

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    Did you steal those from kitonbrioni?

    They actually look quite discreet under natural lighting. Far more quiet, I think, than button boots.[​IMG]
     


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    Vintage Made in Italy for Saks Fifth Ave. Sea Turtle skin Norwegian toe bluchers: [​IMG]
    Oh my, these shoes are gorgeous! I love the color, style, and of course the exotic leather. Fantastic! Are they vintage?
     


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    Oh my, these shoes are gorgeous! I love the color, style, and of course the exotic leather. Fantastic! Are they vintage?
    Yes, they appear to be from the '60s. I wonder who the Italian manufacturer for Saks was at that time?
     


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