Shoe color w/ navy suits

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Mike C., Jun 9, 2004.

  1. Thracozaag

    Thracozaag Senior member

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    (Phil @ 30 Sep. 2004, 04:48) Jack- Your head must be ready to explode when you visit Italy, with all of us wearing our tan shoes with just about everything, including black. Â Its sad to think 30 million of us look so imbecilic in our tan shoes and charcoal suits.
    It is sad, Phil--tragic, really...but then who ever said that Italy was the cradle of all knowledge in men's wear? Look, pal, I don't wish to offend anyone remotely Italian, and this is merely my own considered opinion, and you can do exactly what you want in a free country, but light shoes look unimpressive with dark suits for all the reasons stated in my posts above. That said, know that I love visiting Italy, and that the fine hospitality and splendid food one finds in that lyrically beautiful country nicely offset any surprising personal style decisions encountered there. Â Respectfully, Jack Koji: I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "touche." For the thing to apply, a person would have to be properly nailed, which is plainly not the case here. Mike: I won't ask about Sheboygan, since it is obvious that you are on a watch list in that nice little town....
    That's for the edification.... [​IMG] koji
     
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    (prinseugen @ 30 Sep. 2004, 06:18)
    Jack- Your head must be ready to explode when you visit Italy, with all of us wearing our tan shoes with just about everything, including black. Its sad to think 30 million of us look so imbecilic in our tan shoes and charcoal suits.
    It is sad, Phil--tragic, really...but then who ever said that Italy was the cradle of all knowledge in men's wear? Look, pal, I don't wish to offend anyone remotely Italian, and this is merely my own considered opinion, and you can do exactly what you want in a free country, but light shoes look unimpressive with dark suits for all the reasons stated in my posts above. That said, know that I love visiting Italy, and that the fine hospitality and splendid food one finds in that lyrically beautiful country nicely offset any surprising personal style decisions encountered there. Respectfully, Jack Koji: I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "touche." For the thing to apply, a person would have to be properly nailed, which is plainly not the case here. Mike: I won't ask about Sheboygan, since it is obvious that you are on a watch list in that nice little town....
    That's for the edification.... [​IMG] koji
    Now if only you could contribute to my edification, Koji.... What about a shoe comment of some value, instead of these crypric little notes of yours? I look forward to being enlightened, dear fellow. Sincerely, Jack
     
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    Originally posted by prinseugen:
    Dear Sir, Thracozaag has been a long time member of good standing in this forum, and I for one appreciate his satorial knowledge in many areas.
     
  4. Thracozaag

    Thracozaag Senior member

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    Although I did appreciate the 'dear fellow' comment, better than being called a scoundrel, I suppose.

    koji
     
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    If you look at the member photos, Thracozaag is certainly among the most elegant, IMO.

    I also enjoyed the discussion yesterday about shoe color matching with you, Jack, together with Mike and Phil.

    Regards to all.
     
  6. prinseugen

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    Now if only you could contribute to my edification, Koji.... What about a shoe comment of some value, instead of these crypric little notes of yours? I look forward to being enlightened, dear fellow.
    Dear Sir, Thracozaag has been a long time member of good standing in this forum, and I for one appreciate his satorial knowledge in many areas.
    How nice of you, T4.... Did you read this thread? There are a number of excellent posts to be found herein, where Koji has contributed nothing more than sarcasm. And sarcasm is the lowest form of humor. Kindly refrain from sanctimonious admonitions. I am always respectful of fellow members, longstanding or otherwise. Your comments are not welcome; there is no need for them. Stand down. Koji: I've gone to the trouble of reading some of your other contributions--you are intelligent and worthwhile. And I insist that you engage me in a civilized fashion. We are all highly opinionated here, and that is a good thing, but I am an adult who separates strong opinions about clothes from personal shenanigans aimed at disrupting a perfectly sound debate. There was no "touche," as you put it. And if you read me, you learn something always, since I do not waste my time on mindless rubbish. Phil has strong opinions, and so do Mike and STYLESTUDENT; each of these worthy fellows explains his positions with discernment and good grace. I don't attack others on the board, nor am I amused by flippant remarks at my expense. Act like a gentleman and I'll always show you the respect you will then deserve. STYLESTUDENT: I enjoyed the exchange immensely--your views are greatly appreciated. Regards, Jack
     
  7. montecristo#4

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    Well, just to jump back into this really long thread, I had an experience the other day which I think is instructive.

    It was a beautiful, warm sunny day here in DC. I chose a white shirt, pink tie, navy (on the lighter side) pinstripe suit in 150s fabric, a pair of C&J antique tan monkstraps, and an ever-so slightly darker brown belt.

    This outfit worked great throughout the day.

    However, in the early evening, I was scheduled to accept an award on behalf of my company in "business attire." I made the sartorial error of not moving to dark brown or black shoes for this evening event. As a result, I imagined I stuck out quite a bit (although I suppose most people are completely oblivious to these things). So, for me at least, lesson learned.

    Montecristo
     
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    Brilliant example, Montecristo. We are both professionals. I cannot afford to set the wrong tone with my colleagues: retirement is over ten years away. You have added a distinct layer of judgment to this discussion. When dressing for work or play, it is essential to gauge the environment in which you will function. Your lighter shoes served you well psychologically during the day's business, but they were no longer appropriate for the night's activities--at least not to a knowledgeable person like you.... The French, much discredited these days, use the term "le mot juste," for just the right word at the right time. Dressing must benefit from this simple formula, as well. And because conditions are forever changing, it is important to prepare in a manner that affords greatest flexibility. A fellow is seldom overdressed for an event that takes place at night, but it is easy to fly a bit low for comfort. Terrific anecdote, Montecristo.

    Regards,

    Jack
     
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    Originally posted by prinseugen:
    Dear Jack,
    Of course I have followed this thread, from the start. Yes, there are some very good posts, but I think you are referring to your own replies. As for being "sactimonious", have you read your own words?
    amongst others.
    Between your fawning and rule setting, one wonders whether you have the time to put on your shoes.
    Please remember that there are others on the forum whose opinion is as valid as yours, and your degrading putdowns are not appreciated.
     
  11. Thracozaag

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    Well, he basically put down the entire country of Italy; Phil's sarcastic (and right on the button) refutation took the words out of my mouth, hence the 'touche' (and the ensuing puerile, somewhat pietistic response).

    koji
     
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    How nice of you, T4.... Did you read this thread? There are a number of excellent posts to be found herein, where Koji has contributed nothing more than sarcasm. And sarcasm is the lowest form of humor. Kindly refrain from sanctimonious admonitions. I am always respectful of fellow members, longstanding or otherwise. Your comments are not welcome; there is no need for them. Stand down.
    Dear Jack, Of course I have followed this thread, from the start. Yes, there are some very good posts, but I think you are referring to your own replies. As for being "sactimonious", have you read your own words?
    amongst others. Between your fawning and rule setting, one wonders whether you have the time to put on your shoes. Please remember that there are others on the forum whose opinion is as valid as yours, and your degrading putdowns are not appreciated.
    Save the rubbish, T4. This is a waste of energy: you and I will never agree. I don't like what you've done here--you are both insulting and insipid. I suggest that in future you pick on someone your own size. Ignore me and I will return the favor. Sincerely, Jack
     
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    Originally posted by prinseguin:
    [​IMG] 'Nuff said.
     
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    Do try to locate collars that actually fit, little man.... Koji, there is something very wrong with what passes for reasoning in your world. Note that I never put down the entire nation of Italy, but rather the silly shoe color choices made by some Italian men. And considering that Americans in general cannot hold a candle to the Italians when it comes to personal style on a grand scale, I certainly would never criticize the "entire country of Italy," as you falsely put it. Time to run for office, where idiotic claims are the norm.

    Jack
     
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    ...I suggest that in future you pick on someone your own size...
    [​IMG] 'Nuff said.
    I withdraw my earlier comment: we finally do agree.
     

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