Shoe Antiquing

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  1. jhao

    jhao Senior member

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    haven't fallen off the face, or anything....just crazy busy.

    A pair from last weekends work....really liked these:

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    ended as:

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    why these shoes have strange line that spli them, is because of the metalic shoes trees???
     


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    Wow, this thread is so inspiring!

    My wife thinks I'm going off of the deep end by being on this site anyways - you could imagine what she'll think when I start buying 11.5 shoes from sidewalk sales and set up a "shoe repair shop" in the den!

    This seems like such a gratifying activity.
     


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    RIDER Senior member

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    Rider, what advice would you give concerning changing the color of my Alden Monk Strap Oxford in dark tan to a medium brown?

    http://www.aldenshop.com/DrawOneShoe.asp?CategoryID=131

    I do not want to dye the shoe. However, I was wondering if it is possible to use a combination of creams and waxes to change a color from dark tan to medium brown? I know that this solution is not permanent. Do you think that 15 coats of medium brown cream along with 6 or more coats of wax would make a significant change in the color? Or, rather, would it simply muddy the dark tan complexion of the shoe? Any help would greatly appreciated.


    Did just this last weekend also.....don't think you can get there w/o dye, though. At least, I didn't. I used a base of Feibings Medium Brown, a little Dark Brown mixed with Renoveteur, and then all the polishing. Came out well.....

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    RIDER Senior member

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    why these shoes have strange line that spli them, is because of the metalic shoes trees???

    No.....are Mantellassi.....part of the design - I liked them. It's a split lining piece with stitching and then the lasting process shoes the 'ribs' of the stitch through the upper.
     


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    Thank you so much Ron for the tutorial. I had a hard time getting a non-streaky finish with the brushes, but other than that I thought it was pretty straightfoward, albeit very labor and time consuming. Any advice on how to apply the dye for a more even, mottled appearance than a streaky brush type?

    Your advice regarding the polishes was spot on. I found I could almost rub out alot of the streaky dye appearance by polishing 4 or 5 times between coats, and it helped to enhance the texture of the finish. I also used Lincoln dye preparer between coats to strip the polish, rather than turpentine although I'm sure they are very similar.

    Anyhow, my first attempt (shoe w/o the laces):

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    NICE START! If you have trouble getting brushes to flow, try a nice quality painters sponge....this is the solution I turned to when in the factory recently to get the finishing shop there up to speed on Shell Cordovan finishing.....they did much better, and with nice results, using sponges....I'm sure you would also.
     


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    What would be the best way to develop a patina without the antiquing process? i.e., how to take care of the shoes besides just wearing them?

    Use a good quality polish (both wax and cream) like Saphir or Lincoln, rub extra hard/repeatedly the area's you widh to darken....almost burning the wax in. I also did the brown SM's above by using my hand to work in paste polish......the heat of your skin melts the wax in, but you have to quickly take a rag with Crema Alpina and get it blended before it sets.

    Practice, basically.
     


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    NICE START! If you have trouble getting brushes to flow, try a nice quality painters sponge....this is the solution I turned to when in the factory recently to get the finishing shop there up to speed on Shell Cordovan finishing.....they did much better, and with nice results, using sponges....I'm sure you would also.


    Thank you

    That is very generous of you to share that information. Others may have kept it as propriety.
     


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    Those are so beautiful, I'm jealous. what kind of shoes were they to start with?
     


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    Good stuff.


    Not to threadjack but...

    Ryder, I have a hartmann briefcase that turned dark brown from leather conditioners. It has a nice patina, but I want to add more punch. How can I antique it to give it more contrast without runing the leather?
    Light shoe polish? [​IMG]
     


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    Use a good quality polish (both wax and cream) like Saphir or Lincoln, rub extra hard/repeatedly the area's you widh to darken....almost burning the wax in. I also did the brown SM's above by using my hand to work in paste polish......the heat of your skin melts the wax in, but you have to quickly take a rag with Crema Alpina and get it blended before it sets.

    Practice, basically.


    So, in other words, use shoe cream such as Saphir (a little darker color I assume?) and rub the areas that I want to darken, and right after the rubbing is done, put down some Crema Alpina (or equivalent leather conditioner)?

    If I remembered correctly, I have sent you an email on Franco's regarding shoe cream for my brown (?) shoe and Crema Alpina. Please advise. [​IMG]
     


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    those look beautiful, Ron

    did you use a green base cream at all? seems like I can see green in the patina

    would be nice to learn which exact polishes you used


    p.s. for my own next "Adventures in Antiquing" project, I'm going to attempt to turn these 'made in Italy' Brooks Brothers shoes into the antiqued color of the belt shown next to them:

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    Good call!

    + Saphir MDO Dark Brown (alot), Saphir Dark brown, some mid-brown, and always alternating with neutral or Renoveteur (Reno will clean off any non-adhering color, so you can see what the result will be better than simply going to the next step).
     




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    Those are so beautiful, I'm jealous. what kind of shoes were they to start with?

    Sutor Mantellassi wholecuts.
     


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    Resurrecting an old favorite on a wet Sunday afternoon.

    I've a question: what's the difference between Fiebings Craft Dyes and Pro Oil Dye? Is the Craft Dye better for this work?
     


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