Shoe Antiquing

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  1. Imperator

    Imperator Senior member

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    Norcal: This is kind of an oddball question, but I was just going through the briefcase porn thread and I seem to remember that you purchased a cognac-colored glaser briefcase some time back. Any chance you could post a picture showing what it's looking like now?
     


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    Norcal: This is kind of an oddball question, but I was just going through the briefcase porn thread and I seem to remember that you purchased a cognac-colored glaser briefcase some time back. Any chance you could post a picture showing what it's looking like now?


    it looks about the same as it did the last time I posted a picture of it, mainly because I've rarely used it the past year because I stopped traveling as much as I used to, and I use it as my 'good' bag

    it's also a 'one of a kind' because Myron Glaser made only one hyde like it, and when I received it, I put it out in the sun for 2 weeks to age the leather naturally, of course using lots of conditioner to keep the leather supple while it aged.

    The sun had a dramatic effect on the leather but you can't really see the antiquing until it's in direct light which is not the case here (it's inside in the shade)

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    it looks about the same as it did the last time I posted a picture of it, mainly because I've rarely used it the past year because I stopped traveling as much as I used to, and I use it as my 'good' bag

    it's also a 'one of a kind' because Myron Glaser made only one hyde like it, and when I received it, I put it out in the sun for 2 weeks to age the leather naturally, of course using lots of conditioner to keep the leather supple while it aged.

    The sun had a dramatic effect on the leather but you can't really see the antiquing until it's in direct light which is not the case here (it's inside in the shade)


    Thanks. Are you using leather conditioner or moisturizer/nivea (as I've heard Myron recommends)?
     


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    Thanks. Are you using leather conditioner or moisturizer/nivea (as I've heard Myron recommends)?

    yes
     


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    if you're successful, those shoes will go from hideous to beautiful. goodluck. [​IMG]

    I'm about to start a new antiquing project whose goal is to immitate Berluti's light brown antiqued color applied onto these Brooks Brothers (Peal) loafers that are in SF Bandaid now

    I'm thinking that Fiebings Lt Tan dye + Tarrago Brown Sugar cream might work along with a darker color for mottling effects but will have to see what works

    I'll post pictures before and after when I get to the project this weekend or next

    here's the before picture....

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    here's the antiqued Berluti color I'm going for....

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    to be continued....
     


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    I still am having issues refinishing shoes after trying a billion different things. The main shoe comes out looking great, but as soon as I walk I get that smudgy look in the creases of the shoe from buildup I presume. How do I get the finish looking good without the buildup in the creases? Is it just constant application then removal? Am I just not being patient enough? Mind you I am not trying to "change" the color of my shoes, just enhance it and get a better shine. Any help? Thanks.
     


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    still haven't had time to get to the antiquing project mentioned above but behind that project will be doing something that looks like this - antique brown/black

    actually this one might come first because it wil be easier

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    Hello all! I just wanted to put up a quick post about my recent experience with Ron Rider (this thread's starter) & his shoe antiquing skills.

    To keep it short, I have this pair of Santoni FAM's from the Signature Series. I simply LOVE these shoes, as I am a huge fan of Norvegese constructed footwear, and these are some of the nicest i've ever seen. The only problem was... they were a flat, brown color that I simply COULD NOT STAND!

    They stayed in my closet for months at a time until I found this thread on shoe antiquing & Ron Rider's services. To say the results were stunning would be a HUGE understatement!

    Here's the e-mail I just sent Ron:


    "Hello Ron!

    I have to tell you, I am extremely happy with the wonderful work you did on my shoes. As I wrote you before, I love those shoes, but the color (which I HATED!) kept them in my closet rather than on my feet.

    The patina is beautiful now! The mixture of chocolate brown, black, and burgundy looks wonderful... ESPECIALLY when I wear them outside in the sunlight! I can't wait to see how the patina gets even better with age and natural antiquing.

    Your price was VERY reasonable & your work professional & impeccable. I would recommend you to anyone!

    Hopefully I can send you another pair of my shoes in the future.

    THANKS AGAIN & TAKE CARE!!!!"

    Hopefully the above e-mail says it all.

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    Hello all! I just wanted to put up a quick post about my recent experience with Ron Rider (this thread's starter) & his shoe antiquing skills.

    To keep it short, I have this pair of Santoni FAM's from the Signature Series. I simply LOVE these shoes, as I am a huge fan of Norvegese constructed footwear, and these are some of the nicest i've ever seen. The only problem was... they were a flat, brown color that I simply COULD NOT STAND!

    They stayed in my closet for months at a time until I found this thread on shoe antiquing & Ron Rider's services. To say the results were stunning would be a HUGE understatement!

    Here's the e-mail I just sent Ron:


    "Hello Ron!

    I have to tell you, I am extremely happy with the wonderful work you did on my shoes. As I wrote you before, I love those shoes, but the color (which I HATED!) kept them in my closet rather than on my feet.

    The patina is beautiful now! The mixture of chocolate brown, black, and burgundy looks wonderful... ESPECIALLY when I wear them outside in the sunlight! I can't wait to see how the patina gets even better with age and natural antiquing.

    Your price was VERY reasonable & your work professional & impeccable. I would recommend you to anyone!

    Hopefully I can send you another pair of my shoes in the future.

    THANKS AGAIN & TAKE CARE!!!!"

    Hopefully the above e-mail says it all.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]



    Post Pics of the shoes please. [​IMG]
     


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    Anyone have any experience with trying to antique or dye corrected grain leather?

    I have a pair of "bone"-coloured mezlan loafers that I want to get to a grey colour. They are, presumably, some variety of CG leather although they definitely dont have the hard/plasticky sheen so im not 100% sure.

    What would happen if I vigorously rub black shoe creme repeatedly?

    Should I strip and dye grey?

    Overdye with black?


    Anyone have any advice?
     


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    Damn. Amazing artistry. [​IMG]
     


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    Anyone have any experience with trying to antique or dye corrected grain leather?

    I have a pair of "bone"-coloured mezlan loafers that I want to get to a grey colour. They are, presumably, some variety of CG leather although they definitely dont have the hard/plasticky sheen so im not 100% sure.

    What would happen if I vigorously rub black shoe creme repeatedly?

    Should I strip and dye grey?

    Overdye with black?


    Anyone have any advice?



    I gave it a shot once and I am happy with the result. I used acetone and worked like hell to get off all of the finish, and as much sprayed on color, as I could. I then started laying on different colors of shoe cream. I started out with a really plasticky looking cordovan color and I now have a more mottled burgundy (tending toward red). They aren't the greatest, but an improvement nonetheless.

    Considering you are going from bone to gray I think you have a much better shot at getting your desired color. Make sure you strip it first, though, otherwise that color isn't going to take.

    Also, the stripping took more elbow grease than I expected, it took me about 4 hours total to get everything stripped away.
     


  13. isshinryu101

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    If you try to do it yourself, I would suggest stripping the color it has COMPLETELY off (using deglazer) before trying to add any new color. If there's ANY of the old color left, you'll get a combo / mixture color in that area.

    I saw a pair of light blue shoes that were dyed brown without totally stripping the blue away. The resulting mixture left a "vomit green" color in those areas. NOT very nice.

    By the time you pay for deglazer & dye, then invest the time necessary to come out with a decent result, you're just better off getting another pair of shoes. Ebay has a ton of Mezlans.

    If you really like a pair of shoes, i would suggest just finding an expert (like Ron Rider) to do it for you. it's really easy to ruin shoes with dye.

    Good luck!

    PS: I'll try to take some pics of the shoes I referenced in my earlier post.
     


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    I had a go on some old AEs yesterday, used Fiebings 'British Tan' with 'Oxblood' on the toe-caps and heels, and I'm pretty pleased with the result. A bit blotchy in places but not bad for a first try, certainly better than the rather boring 'chilli' colour they started out as.

    I forgot to take any before pictures but I might try to take some pics of the result when there's some decent light to take them in.
     


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    If you try to do it yourself, I would suggest stripping the color it has COMPLETELY off (using deglazer) before trying to add any new color. If there's ANY of the old color left, you'll get a combo / mixture color in that area.

    I saw a pair of light blue shoes that were dyed brown without totally stripping the blue away. The resulting mixture left a "vomit green" color in those areas. NOT very nice.

    By the time you pay for deglazer & dye, then invest the time necessary to come out with a decent result, you're just better off getting another pair of shoes. Ebay has a ton of Mezlans.

    If you really like a pair of shoes, i would suggest just finding an expert (like Ron Rider) to do it for you. it's really easy to ruin shoes with dye.

    Good luck!

    PS: I'll try to take some pics of the shoes I referenced in my earlier post.


    I want to see pictures of them on you while you are preforming seiuchin kata.
     


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