Shell Cordovan Belts

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  1. JohnMS

    JohnMS Senior member

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    Interesting... for those who wear Land's end belts (or the belts by the actual manufacturer, if you know that), how true to size are they?

    I have a 35-36 waist (actually, I'm wearing my pant about an inch above my hip bone), which usually means the 4th hole in on a 38 inch belt.
     


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    Log onto www.landsend.com you will then find an online chat service they have. I've always found they are very good at pulling the actual product if necessary to give you information. Tell them you want to know the measurement for example to the third notch, entire length of belt, etc. and they will measure by hand. Ask for Specialty Shoppers to do that.
     


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    I purchased this belt a couple of months ago (at $89.00). It's excellent and runs true to size. I wear a 38" and I'm on the third hole. It is not a single piece, since that's the nature of cordovan belts (hide is not large enough). I could not find out the original manufacturer but since it's made in USA for Lands End it's probably Alden. A great deal at the current price.
     


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    Why on earth do they make them with brass buckles only?
     


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    Inborn perversity?
     


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    I discussed the matter of the $64.95 shell cordovan belt with my friend Greg Kramer, one of the world's pre-eminent holster makers. Most of his holsters are horsehide, and he has a very close relationship with Horween Tannery. He found the $64.95 price to be literally incredible. He said that a belt fabricated from three pieces of shell cordovan should run about $200 to $300, with the higher figure being more likely. One can make a two-piece belt, but it's hard to find shells big enough since big draft horses are much less common these days. He could only surmise that belts at this price are stitched together from small pieces. He informed me that Horween takes four months to tan a shell. Some of the Asian tanneries take about two weeks, and the quality is not nearly as good. He had looked at some shell cordovan from another US vendor (not Horween), and he said it felt like cardboard. Is it possible that these belts are from this low-grade cordovan?

    Sorry to come across as a "spoiler" or wet blanket in this business, but I am a firm believer in the old maxim, "When a thing sounds too good to be true, it generally is."
     


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    I wanted to learn more about this as well, since I ordered shell cordovan shoes for the shop from Italy, with a couple of matching belts. The manufacturer said,'of course, they will be two seamed'. I remembered Aldens' one piece cordovan belt and looked into it. I don't work with Alden, but I know enough about them to say that I do not think they would mis-lead their customers. I also know that Horween gives Alden preference on shell cordovan supply. I think these pictures show that it is possible to make one-piece shell cordovan belts. http://img91.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img91&image=scordo.jpg[​IMG] http://www.horween.com/photogallery.html
     


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    Note that Alden's cordovan belts are two seamed and list for $200.00. The Lands End model looks virtually identical and the material qualities are excellent. Obviously you are not risking anything since you can always return it. <a href="http://[​IMG]
     


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    It just seems to me kind of surprising that Land's End could offer a virtually identical product at less than a third the price of Alden, who are the major consumers of shell cordovan in the USA.
     


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