SF opinion on construction of women's shoes?

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  1. NotoriousMarquis

    NotoriousMarquis Senior member

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    My girlfriend prefers clunker shoes to daintier ones.

    She has a pair of double oak soled cowboy boots made from really nice leather that she has put through hell. She seems to like welted shoes—more like loafers, wingtips, brogue boots. She wanted a pair of double monks for a while but couldn't find any that were reasonably priced and not horribly made or designed.
     


  2. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Noted. I was speaking of rich women only. As I usually do. :)
     


  3. dieworkwear

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    Mannina in Florence has some nice women's boots. Given how the men's shoes are made there, perhaps he can tell you something about women's footwear. I imagine they keep the same standards. If you can get him to give you some of his time, he'll certainly be more informative than most people on this forum.

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  4. Testudo_Aubreii

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    There are some threads on Ask Andy about Clothes about durability and construction in women's shoes. Among the glued, women-only brands, there was some agreement that Circa Joan and David (or whatever their top-line brand is called) are (relatively) well made, and Taryn Rose are comfortable and desgined to be orthopedically sound while still fashionable. As with men's shoes, the more leather, the better. So look for leather linings, leather insoles, leather outsoles, and leather footbeds.

    If you don't need 4"+ high heels, Crockett and Jones has a nice range of women's shoes for work wear. W. S. Foster also does shoes with moderate heels.

    I bought my wife some high-heeled Aldos with leather lining, leather outsoles, and leather insoles. Despite being the highest heel in her collection, she says they are the most comfortable high heels she's ever worn. Although the uppers are suede, I think that tells you something.

    A good thread on these issues here: http://www.cutterandtailor.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1535
     


  5. MikeDT

    MikeDT Senior member

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    Quality and construction is irrelevant, they never wear them for more than one season. As long as they have a conspicuous designer logo, they're good to go.
     
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  6. rabiesinfrance

    rabiesinfrance Senior member

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    In my experience, the only classic shoes that they tend to like are boots. I bought a couple of pairs of Chelsea boots and a pair of brogues for nowt off ebay as a present and the girl in question liked the boots, but hated the brogues. Grenson, by the way. They were "too lesbian", she said.

    The only boots that'll make women drool are bespoke riding boots. Riding boots, or knee length boots, are probably the most popular style after heels. Most of them fit crap - gap at the top of the boot, and obviously made in crap leather.

    If anyone of the opposite sex is reading this - heaven forbid - I would recommend brown leather because black leather, particularly crap black leather, looks bad very quickly. And get the sort with a buckle at the top so you can pull the boots tight. Dubarry boots are nice, but they do look as if you've just stepped out of a Land Rover.
     
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  8. bengal-stripe

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    In the UK there is Caroline Groves, a bespoke shoemaker who specialised in "true" women's shoes
    (not the queen-mumsy pumps other English shoemakers produce).

    http://www.carolinegroves.co.uk/

    Ms Groves can meet her customers in the premises of Foster & Son in London's Jermyn Street.


    Massaro in Paris is the top name for ladies' couture shoes.

    http://www.massaro.fr/en/index.php
     
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  9. DerekS

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    this man knows what he's talking about. TRUST ME.

    thank god my wife has no problem buying shoes for 20-50. except for the one pair of "red soled Louboutins" that she just got...but admittedly i was the driving force in that purchase.
     


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    hmmh, it doesn't answer the questions and concerns of the thread starter, imo.
     


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  12. username79

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    Why don't you ask your gf what shoes she would like rather than asking a bunch of dudes on the internet?
     


  13. Dewey

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    OP, I went down this same road a few years ago.

    I took my wife to Iris in New York on the recommendation of the people at Leffot. http://www.irisnyc.com/ ... Iris has lovely shoes but from a construction and durability standpoint the shoes at Leffot are a much better deal. In my experience the materials will be just as nice. But it's rare to find goodyear welts etc. on anything but boots. The idea that you will pay more to get something that can be resoled ... not sure it will be realized in the women's shoe stores.

    Speaking of boots, Lucchese and Frye are good options for women's boots. Also look at R.M. Williams ... they offer a greater variety of heels. I'll second the comment about C&J's lady shoes not having a high enough heel. Unless your girlfriend is 5' 8", she will probably want more of a heel than you can get on the C&J jodphur, for example.

    The final observation I'll make is that it may not be second nature for a women to take good care of her shoes. Since they do not buy them expecting ten years of life, they do not care for them the way men care for their Aldens. Women don't sit around and polish their shoes on Saturday morning. For sure they did not see their mother doing this as they grew up. The whole shoe-shine thing is a man thing. So if you buy your girl shoes expecting her to have something like your Alden experience, you might expect to be the person who puts in the trees and conditions and polishes and repairs the gouges. Don't be surprised if you drop an Edward Green-sized sum on some fine boots and then find her caring for them the same way she cares for the rest of her boots.
     
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    Be VERY careful exposing her to better shoes just to assuage your own guilt over your shoe expenditures. Soon enough she'll be just as addicted to fine shoes as we are!
     


  15. Gdot

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    The more I thought about this I came to remember that my mother (who is still a pretty snappy dresser for a 75 year old) seemed to have bought shoes to last. At least certain types of shoes. Simple, elegant 'business pumps' for the office seemed to almost always to have been Bally or Ferragamos. And as she got older she moved into loafers (which she calls 'flats') from the same makers. Many of these are pretty timeless and I know she still wears a good many of them. Because I polish them when I visit her. Shoe polishing being a 'man's job' and all that.

    There were also all manner of 'seasonal' shoes in various quality levels, etc. etc. more along the lines of what most women seem to flock to today.
     


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