SF Film/Cinema Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Manny Calavera, May 28, 2007.

  1. landho

    landho Senior member

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    (Cross-posted in slightly different form from the Forbidden Kingdom thread.) Honestly, I thought Forbidden Kingdom was going to be a Hong Kong movie opening in the United States, much like Crouching Tiger and Hero were. All I know was that Jackie Chan and Jet Li were starring, and that was enough for me. It isn't a Hong Kong movie, of course. The framework story is silly, the overall plot is silly, and the white kid is super annoying (he's a real weasel). But I'm glad the filmmakers didn't waste a lot of time with exposition, character development, etc. They got pretty much into the meat of the story right away. Yuen Woo-ping's fight scenes were all amazing; my only real complaint was the judicious cutting in some of them. Well-choreographed fight scenes are best filmed the Hong Kong way, that is, with long takes. But that's a pretty middling complaint. (The aggressive cutting is most noticeable in the Jackie Chan-Jet Li fight.) There were a lot of great comic scenes. The kid was annoying and the story was kind of silly, but again--so what? It reminds me of how people reacted to Shoot 'Em Up, saying that the story was ludicrous, that there was no character development, etc. You don't watch a movie like Shoot 'Em Up to see Clive Owen's character grimace a la Daniel Day-Lewis; you watch a movie like Shoot 'Em Up to see shit get blown up, characters outsmart each other, and bullets fly. A similar rubric should be applied to films like The Forbidden Kingdom. I saw Jet Li and Jackie Chan fight, and I saw a lot of badass fight scenes. I'm satisfied. Anyway, it made me want to start watching martial-arts films again; tonight I watched The Magic Blade. [​IMG] Favorite quote: "I don't need to hold a grudge to kill."
     


  2. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Recent viewings :

    L'appartement/Mimouni/France/1996: a romance constructed like a thriller, starring Monica Bellucci and Vincent Cassel in their first on screen pairing. I had seen that film before (and own the DVD), definitely recommended if you can't find it; unpretentious but quality entertainment.

    Le dernier gang/Zeitoun/France/2007: Not a great movie by any stretch of the imagination but an interesting view for those that are fascinated with some of the events presented in Olivier Marchal's 36 quai des orfèvres and the activities of the famous "gang des postiches" (the hairpiece gang, famous bank robbers from the 80s) whose membership's eventual demise also led to the fall and imprisonment and eventual pardon of a senior police officer for reasons still seen as nebulous and politically motivated.

    Next on the watch list:

    "¢\tMongol, a mega-production about the life of Genghis Khan starring Tadanobu Asano
    "¢\tTruands, Schoendoerffer's (who directed secret agents) latest movie, another cop/criminal thing that I enjoy and you might not, Marchal also has a small role in this.
    "¢\tNueve Reinas: has anyone seen this, I like what I've read but never bothered to watch it.
    "¢\tNaissance des pieuvres/Water lilies: Girls coming of age story, supposedly pretty good. New Yorkers might have heard of it under the title of "water lilies" as I saw a couple of posters plastered around Manhattan announcing its theatrical run.
     


  3. Fade to Black

    Fade to Black Senior member

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    where can you guys find movies like this? No DVD store i see here has such a vast selection of obscure films.
     


  4. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    where can you guys find movies like this? No DVD store i see here has such a vast selection of obscure films.

    Most of the movies I listed aren't obscure they're just not released in the US.

    My sources:
    "¢\tI have a relatively large DVD collection, a large part of them being French DVDs, so different market, different sensibilities=different releases
    "¢\tI live in the bobo (yuck) part of town so there are some pretty good movie rental places.
    "¢\tSome cinemas mainly show "independent" and "foreign" (hate that US-centric classification) films.
    "¢\tI download that shit like a cat burglar on speed (for example "Disco", a mainstream and surely pathetically bad comedy came out this month).
    "¢\tOnline rental places often have excellent selections.
    "¢\tI have friends with similar interests who may just lend me a couple of movie, say a guy is from Sicily he'll have plenty of releases from the old country and might get new ones from the same sources as I.
    "¢\tAs I said some of these aren't really that obscure: Water lilies won some prize at Cannes, the gangster movies I mentioned were relatively mainstream releases, Mongol is a mega production with a pan-Asian star and some Russian and German backers.
     


  5. chronoaug

    chronoaug Boston Hipster (Dropkick Murphy)

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    where can you guys find movies like this? No DVD store i see here has such a vast selection of obscure films.

    Netflix has a fair amount of more obscure films. I wish i still had my account as the local blockbuster is shit
     


  6. landho

    landho Senior member

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    where can you guys find movies like this? No DVD store i see here has such a vast selection of obscure films.

    FTB, finding the movies themselves isn't so difficult if you're studious and resourceful; it's knowing what movies to look for.
     


  7. denimdestroyedmylife

    denimdestroyedmylife Big Winner

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    i swear i am not affiliated but greencine is the best mail-rental dvd joint i know for obscure flicks since nicheflix closed shop; they ship you your next dvd as soon as you drop your current one in the mail; the honor system!
     


  8. landho

    landho Senior member

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    i swear i am not affiliated but greencine is the best mail-rental dvd joint i know for obscure flicks since nicheflix closed shop; they ship you your next dvd as soon as you drop your current one in the mail; the honor system!

    What do you mean "closed shop"? (I don't use Netflix, and I couldn't find anything from a cursory search through the news....)
     


  9. denimdestroyedmylife

    denimdestroyedmylife Big Winner

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  10. Manny Calavera

    Manny Calavera Senior member

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    Aw no, I had no idea nicheflix was done for.[​IMG]

    I watched Gary Tarn's Black Sun last night, a beautiful documentary about artist Hugues de Montalembert, who was struck blind after being attacked on the streets of New York.
     


  11. landho

    landho Senior member

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    no, not NETflix, NICHEflix.
    :p


    The mind is faster than the eye....
     


  12. landho

    landho Senior member

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    Watched The Bride with White Hair, directed by Ronny Yu and starring Leslie Cheung and Brigitte Lin. Found it bizarre, horrifying, and amazing.
     


  13. Fade to Black

    Fade to Black Senior member

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    Hong Kong VCD double bill last week:

    See You in Youtube - uhh...one of the worst movies i've ever seen. bought it thinking it'd be a guilty pleaure, Janice Man looks uglier in motion than in her touched up pictures and Elanne Kwong bores me. Stay away from this one.

    CJ7 - Surprisingly good...very good actually. I refused to see this in the theaters for some reason, but was in for a pleasant viewing. Not much Chow screen time, but his style in this movie is an inspiration to me. Doesn't look like a movie that took 3-4 years to film though.
     


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    Fade to Black Senior member

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    The Savages - Very good, subtle and nuanced drama/comedy with stellar performances from both Hoffman and Linney, especially the latter. Also I thought the guy who played the father was excellent as well...what i liked so much about the film was that the story and characters felt totally believable and human, and even the ending didn't go overboard in trying to deliver a typically satisfying conclusion like it could've.
     


  15. GoSurface

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    I just came back from seeing Smart People. I enjoyed the movie. Although, Ellen Paige annoys the piss out of me, too bad she's not beneath me when it's happening.
     


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