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Sexuality?

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by VMan, Jan 28, 2004.

  1. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    I know this is a sensitive subject for many, so I don't expect anyone to post responses (besides the confidential poll). I'm just curious since fashion and 'dressing well' is usually associated strongly with gay culture. However, it seems like many members here are straight.

    On a side note, on other forums (read: GQ.com) it seems being gay is really looked down upon and used as an insult. I've got no problem if a person chooses to live this lifestyle and I'd never hold it against them. I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their beliefs, but I think we're in a period in time when we need to drop stereotypes and start accepting new things because thats one of the only ways we will advance (culturally, socially, etc).
     
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    I would venture to guess that most people on this site share your feelings, at least somewhat.
     
  3. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    Yes, I think it goes along with the vastly higher maturity of the posters compared to other forums.
     
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    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    the fashion part yes, but i'm not sure about "dressing well." if you've ever driven down santa monica blvd. in west hollywood you know what i'm taliking about. fluorescent spandex does not make a well dressed man. [​IMG]
     
  5. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I agree generally with the sentiments expressed in this thread. However,

    bothers me intellectually. Leaving aside definitional problems, I think that justifying any particular morality in the name of "advancement" of any sort is, at best, dangerous. Moral precepts should be judged solely on their own merit.
     
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    According to the poll results, we're not a very happy and carefree crowd on here.
     
  7. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    I'm kind of suprised at the results (figured there would be a few gay men), yet actually nobody on the forums struck me as being outright gay. Maybe it was because most of us stick to the classics or more 'normal' trends and know the line between fashion and eccentricism?

    Now for the other big question...who here is a woman that has been masquerading as a man all of this time?
     
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    VMan Senior member

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    we need to drop stereotypes and start accepting new things because thats one of the only ways we will advance (culturally, socially, etc).
    bothers me intellectually. Â Leaving aside definitional problems, I think that justifying any particular morality in the name of "advancement" of any sort is, at best, dangerous. Â Moral precepts should be judged solely on their own merit.
    I see your point and agree. I meant that we shouldn't hold predjuces for the sole purpose that a person is gay. Its understandable that someone might not agree with what they are doing, but its not something to hold against a person. I meant advancing 'socially' as not being discriminating and becoming more accepting of people (applies more to those living in areas where there are not many gay people. Shouldn't apply to anyone living in the Castro in San Francisco).
     
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    LA Guy--Thank you for your comments. You articulated what I felt but was unable to express tactfully.

    About women in the forum... I know this is probably a post of its own, but do any of you know of a forum like ours for women? I only know a few women as interested in fashion as myself, and would like to have a site/forum to refer them to. Any suggestions?
     
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    I tend to like guys, but I don't think the stereotype ever was all that valid. Yes, gay guys as a percentage probably do tend to dress better, but they are by no means the majority of the stylish guys you see on the street. The stereotype is generally insulting to any guy, his sexual orientation notwithstanding.
     
  12. VMan

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    I agree with you. Shows like "queer eye", "Will and Grace" unrealistically portray all gay men as well dressed, style-forward, up-to-date on culture and entertainment (the last three aren't bad by any means) but also shows gays as [often] over-the-top, very feminine, and excessively flambouyant.

    While many men do fit this image, I don't think its a good thing to stereotype all gay men under this umbrella.
     
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    I think homosexuals should have just as much opportunity as heterosexuals. What really bothers me are the devoutly religious types who claim that being gay is a sin. I am sorry, but who are you to judge people?
     
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    I didn't see metrosexual as an option in the poll... Are they not represented, are they not people also?.?.?
     
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    Metrosexual isn't a sex really...Metrosexuals are heteros. Its just a way of life that doesn't involve an alternative sexuality.


    Actually, the more I think about it....I found the answer....

    Straght men are attracted to women.

    Gay men are attracted to men.

    Metros are attracted to Gucci shirts, designer sales, and Kiehl's grooming products.
     
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    I wanted to laugh, but I use some stuff by Kiehl's... haha, very funny, though.
     
  17. VMan

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    There's no problem with that - everyone likes to look good, and its good to have healthy skin and body...but...when your life revolves around it, thats when you know you've come out of the Metro closet.
     
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    Pink,

    I don't understand your argument. First off, homosexuals do have the same rights as heterosexuals, at least when it comes to marriage (well, at the moment, Mass. rulings might change that, but anyway).

    Secondly, your statement about religion confuses me. My religion says "thou shalt not kill." Does that mean I am "judging" murderers if I consider them sinners?
     
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    Well I would take on anyone who claimed that homosexuals have the same rights and status as heterosexuals.
     
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    There's faulty logic, here. Any man has the "right" to marry a woman, regardless of his sexual preference.
    With regard to considering homosexuality a sin, I can't think of any church that does. What they consider a sin is promiscuity, or sex that occurs out of the lifelong union between a man and woman. Most religions consider homosexuality as a call to remain celibate.

    As to my beliefs, I think we should abandon the institutionalization of marriage all together. Let whoever the hell wants to get married celebrate any kind of ceremony they want. The government shouldn't look at them any differently than they did before they were married. There shouldn't even be a question of legality in this situation.
     

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