Fuuma
Franchouillard Modasse
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By all means ... The best delusion of it all is someone daring to 'judge' others for consumption (I hear Hilary Clinton's voice screeching in the background, why is that?), and making a whole bunch of assumptions. The best was the petite-bourgeois comment (a tired slang offered up by hippies and wannabe bloggers, mostly), and the foul and angry charge at those of us who in Fuuma's words "are born into it". Is there a point there? I assure you we don't "show off" and we don't care. My response was to not respond; I typically ignore those who, like Fuuma, have no idea what they are talking about and the whole thing is very sad. There's a lot of Green Party "consumerism" and "neo-marxism" drivel being espoused right now in Canada, along with NDP socialists (yes, you are lucky not to have to put up with that line of thinking in America, for it is delusional, indeed, and we face it everyday up here. It is more than tiring, and it is to that "justify" attitude to which I initially responded, as have many others here). Enough said, except to say that knocking people for style and consumption on a board dedicated to style and consumption? What a hypocrite. Then, it's what I would expect from someone who actually thinks sneakers and denim are "refinement" or, as here: "I like the crazy japanese brands though, stuff like this (or many CDG collections): http://www.stylezeitgeist.com/forums...ead.php?t=7478 Not exactly the stuff of refinement, nor would it "fit" in a boardroom, I might add. I say again: hypocrite and drivel. BTW, as to my Porshe, that was a comment reflected to environmentalism drivel; it's a vintage Targa actually, which I've fully restored for my own pleasure and enjoyment. And among my watch collection (yes, I am a collector) I've a terrific historical piece, a WWII Rolex made in Canada, actually, and it's keeping great time, thanks. Like I said, I like it, the history of it, and the fact that these actual watches were worn by the CDN military (I've many others, but that particular one belonged to my father who was there, and I like the whole mystique of it: and that is all that matters - hardly to "show off", then, "people born into it" don't do that - about the only thing said that was right, but even that is wrong). Justify to yourself, people. That's all that matters. It is time to go back to work, really. Cheers.Originally Posted by Avocat
You are an imbecile with the reading skills to match your pathetic lack of discernment. 1) I did not say you were born into it and stopped at that, here is the full quote:“You can act like you're an island but I don't ******* care, I know you were born into it just like everybody else.” I was not referring to your social class but the fact that you were born in a society that shaped you, to say nothing of how you rely on complex social structures (business world, the Law, the locust of activity of large urban centers) to conduct your business. You may think you’re self-made but no one is naive enough to believe you. 2) You are opposed to the idea of someone else judging your consumption yet you judge mine with no uncertain terms (see your opinion on some Japanese designs you don’t actually have the background to judge with any aplomb but went ahead and trashed anyway). It is how it goes; we look at what people buy, how they live, what are their hobbies and what sort of cultural products they enjoy and form opinions on these interests and the person who has them. It is also a part of how we distinguish ourselves from others and even signal belonging in certain circles. There is nothing I am saying here that is much contested among sociologists or other researchers who study human societies (say anthropologists). 3) I did not refer either to Marxism or socialism, you did. You seem to be ready to fly off the handle without much help from anyone; your foaming at the mouth frenzy will be much appreciated in the current even forum when you reach 100 posts. 4) The use of the term “petit-bourgeois” is quite appropriate because you display the worst traits of that class; close-mindedness, pedestrian taste attached to items telegraphing economical status, over-reliance on common wisdom and the past, limited worldview when it comes to occupational activities and lifestyle (what does it matter if what I wear is not “boardroom appropriate”?) and even classic aristocratic or high bourgeoisie pretensions (your references to refinement, our people don’t show off, and so on and so forth). It is a rather sad state of affairs you’d be such a caricature when we have plenty of members here who come from and possess many characteristics of that class yet have quite a positive outlook on things. From what I have seen TCHouston is like that; I’m pretty sure he likes Swiss watches and sport cars but he certainly understands that it isn’t a given and doesn’t glorify himself for those relatively trivial interests. Oh and stop confusing your years of instruction for education, it is quite apparent you are sorely lacking when it comes to aesthetic appreciation. I bet you still believe Art has to be beautiful, realistic and truthful. tl;dr: Avocat is a ****
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