Semi formal pants question!

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  1. smileyjax

    smileyjax Member

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    Those black pants that are made with twill which are sort of dressy and sort of casual but not really....any point in owning a pair?

    I can't think of a situation that those pants would be good for. If I want to be casual I'd wear blue jeans. If I want formal I'd wear a suit. Those pants don't really go with runners and they certainly don't go with dress shoes.

    Any opinions about them?
     


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    You don't even trouble to name any make trousers for consideration.
     


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    those would be called black chinos or even some call them black khakis. waiters pants or casual with boat shoes and a polo or ocbd
     


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    i don't own black pants!
     


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    This. Exactly the pants he described.

    So basically useless unless you be a waiter? Really don't know how to wear these. The reason I ask is because I'm contemplating on returning a pair.

    So what you stylish people think?
     


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    If they are really black khaki pants, I'd return them and get a pair of blue khakis, Khakis are good pants to own, they can bridge the gap between jeans and a suit. Actually I almost always wear khakis for casual dressing.
     


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    Can you please elaborate how they bridge the gap between jeans and a suit?
     


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    You can't even wear them with a hoodie and sneakers. Seems strange.
     


  10. Quixote

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    Khaki pants are a casual pant, when worn with a dress shirt, tie, and jacket, or a nice shirt and sweater, they can help pull together a business casual look. The typical khaki pant colours are tan (khaki) and blue. Black khakis are what waiters wear, and they shouldn't really be worn by anyone else. Jeans are always a very casual even when worn with a jacket. Khakis are worn when you want to look a step up from jeans, but not as dressed up as a suit or dress pants.
     


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    Jacket+Jeans rarely look good. Sounds easy but the combination is quite tricky with material and color.
    Jacket+khakis can easily look good while looking casual.
     


  12. smileyjax

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    I always thought that the jacket should match the pants.

    So.i guess if I'm not the casual jacket wearer then ditching khakis altogether would be fine? I usually can't find separate jackets in the 'short' length. That length usually comes formal with pants.
     


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    A separate jacket should not come anywhere near to matching the pants, unless they are made from exactly the same material (and that is called a "suit", not "formal with pants").

    Short jackets are just as common as short suits. Here's a pile of them on Sierra Trading Post, just as an example: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/me...~length;s/mens-blazers-and-sport-coats~d~282/
     


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    I've got no clue what you're talking about. That's one heck of a description. Do you have a picture?

    EDIT:

    I read a few other posts. If you're talking about black chinos/khakis, then they aren't useless. You can wear them with a variety of shirt/sweater/jacket combinations. They aren't useless at all. A lot of guys will crap all over the idea of black pants because they aren't "SF approved," but you can put together a lot of nice outfits with them (particularly for night-time occasions).
     
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    They're not useless, but they're not useful. If possible, the beginning wardrobe-builder should try to get pants in other, more versatile colors.
     


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