Selvedge: Only a gentlemen's game?

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  1. whodini

    whodini Conan OOOOOOO"BRIEN!

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    As I was explaining the concept of selvedge to my ex, whose knowledge of jeans extends to about 7fam or joe's, a question came up that i hadn't thought of before: does/can the selvedge trend really extend to women?

    I mean sure, Nudie and others offer a few pairs, but I had a hard time imagining women buying clothing that would eventually become loose and then shrink or even something they'd have to try to wear unwashed for several months. I couldn't quite picture my ex wanting to walk around with dripping indigo that first time around but perhaps she wouldn't mind if it were already sanforized. She did, however, like the idea of wearing her jeans in to create a personal pair.

    Any thoughts?
     


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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    My wife will start wearing in a pair of New Standards as soon as they arrive. I doubt that she will wear them every day though. They'll probably go into her regular rotation (about 3 pairs).

    As I was explaining the concept of selvedge to my ex, whose knowledge of jeans extends to about 7fam or joe's, a question came up that i hadn't thought of before: does/can the selvedge trend really extend to women?

    I mean sure, Nudie and others offer a few pairs, but I had a hard time imagining women buying clothing that would eventually become loose and then shrink or even something they'd have to try to wear unwashed for several months. I couldn't quite picture my ex wanting to walk around with dripping indigo that first time around but perhaps she wouldn't mind if it were already sanforized. She did, however, like the idea of wearing her jeans in to create a personal pair.

    Any thoughts?
     


  3. cheapmutha

    cheapmutha Senior member

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    wait... you have to wear them without washing? i thought selvage just meant that the jeans were made from narrow loomed denim. i didnt know that they have special rules about how you have to wash and wear them. the only thing going against selvage for women that i can think of is the necessity of a straight cut outseam, which limits the fit options.

    and a gentlemans game? alot of supertalkers have selvage and i wouldnt call them gentlemen. same goes for me... tho i may be close.... i just need to buy a suit.
     


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    wait... you have to wear them without washing? i thought selvage just meant that the jeans were made from narrow loomed denim. i didnt know that they have special rules about how you have to wash and wear them. the only thing going against selvage for women that i can think of is the necessity of a straight cut outseam, which limits the fit options.

    and a gentlemans game? alot of supertalkers have selvage and i wouldnt call them gentlemen. same goes for me... tho i may be close.... i just need to buy a suit.


    Smartass.
     


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    Nah, for women, it's all about how the ass look. They couldn't care less if the jeans were made from the cotton grown on Mars.
     


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    I'm assuming you meant Raw and not selvage?
     


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    duofold Well-Known Member

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    For any woman, good choice for 1st raw selvedge denim...talk about the ultimate in vanity sizing!

    Dark, indigo denim (whether they be dry and/or selvedge, for women or men) seems to be the aggressor in trends this fall. My wife works for the major US department store and they've been putting these jeans on mannequins, especially the skinny variety.
     


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    Smartass.
    sorry.... maybe im just jealous that i cant go 6 moths without washing. i dont get how selvage and raw are used interchangeably. they are 2 completely different things, describing 2 completely different properties of denim.
     


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    *puts down cup of tea*

    Ain't no woman gonna wanna get no damn dry jeans!!

    *picks up cup of tea*
     


  10. whodini

    whodini Conan OOOOOOO"BRIEN!

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    Sorry, when I wrote the post I was still drunk from breakfast. I meant to ask if the selvedge trend will follow along to women and if they would go further than that and try dry.

    Once again, my chronic alcoholism is to blame.
     


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    You still didnt answer wether the fact that a jean is selvedge (and not Raw) forces it into a strict regiment of wash cycles. Or did you mean raw instead?
     


  12. cheapmutha

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    no jeans have to be washed any certian way.... you can wash your raw veggie selvage every day if you want and the only people who care are the ones on internet fashion sites.
     


  13. whodini

    whodini Conan OOOOOOO"BRIEN!

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    You still didnt answer wether the fact that a jean is selvedge (and not Raw) forces it into a strict regiment of wash cycles. Or did you mean raw instead?
    Not selvedge, raw wash cycles.
     


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    you other guys should've been harder on whodini as you could've cleared up this mess half a page ago. He obviously meant raw denim. you could've made several corrections. one, nudie doesn't make any models for ladies; excepting one unisex model, that duty is handled by their counterpart denimbirds. I for one, am not buying any raw denim this season..for ladies; the experiential element would be lost on them AND, being dirty is not a big part of the female gender identity. That said, dark jeans on girls look HOT. and I bet whoever's wife it is that's getting ns's will look great; but a word of warning: try not to let your fetishes overlap. Bad things could happen.
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    Anybody can wash any jean any way they want. If you're looking for a certain wear effect then following a certain wash/wear philosophy may help achieve that but you don't harm raw jeans by washing them any more than you harm acid washed Levis by washing them. In fact, as has been stated here repeatedly you may be adversly affecting the life (from a longevity standpoint) by not washing it.
    What's crazy is that the probably the best looking jeans out there are vintage Levis that were washed when they got dirty. The workers and cowboys didn't worry about getting another month of wear before washing them, they just wore them and washed them when they got dirty. That's authentic wear.
    It's just denim. They're just jeans.
     


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