Sea Island fabrics

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  1. Kasper

    Kasper Senior member

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    I bought a Gimo Italiana Sea Island fabric sweater at Marshalls and really like the feeling of this fabric. Do any members have experience with Sea Island fabrics? I think this one is rayon but I'm not sure as the fabric label has been cut, it did have an outer tag on it that said 100% certified Sea Island fabic, maybe it was more specific than that but I can't remember.
     
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    I bought a Gimo Italiana Sea Island fabric sweater at Marshalls and really like the feeling of this fabric. Do any members have experience with Sea Island fabrics? I think this one is rayon but I'm not sure as the fabric label has been cut, it did have an outer tag on it that said 100% certified Sea Island fabic, maybe it was more specific than that but I can't remember.


    Sea Island should only be 100% cotton, nothing else.
     
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    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    If it's rayon, then the designation "Sea Island" not only has no meaning, it is possibly a trademark violation.

    "Sea Island" used to refer to cotton grown on the islands off the American Southeastern coast. It was reputed to be among the best in the world. The economics of growing it stopped making sense a long time ago. Recently, within the last decade or so, West Indian growers banded together and formed an association and revived the name as a sort of cross-industry brand. It's very good cotton (shirting cotton, BTW, not knit yarns for sweaters) though most believe it is not as good as the best stuff grown in Egypt and spun and woven in Switzerland or Italy.
     
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    Is this, then, the origin of the Sea Island Quality designation one sometimes sees on T&A shirts, pajamas, robes (that it somehow meets historical Sea Island standards even if grown in Egypt or elsewhere)?
     
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    Is this, then, the origin of the Sea Island Quality designation one sometimes sees on T&A shirts, pajamas, robes (that it somehow meets historical Sea Island standards even if grown in Egypt or elsewhere)?
    I don't know. The seemingly uncessary use of the qualifier "Quality" makes me suspicious, however.
     
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    Now there are Sea Island knit yarns produced by those who also produce yarns for shirt fabric. The Brit shirtmakers use the phrase "Sea Island Quality" to bring attention to their shirts made from higher-yarn-number fabrics, perhaps 120/2 or 140/2 and up.
    WISICA may be like fil d'Ecosse. "Fil d'Ecosse" refers to a specific type of yarn, but these days it most definitely needn't be from Scotland to be labeled "fil d'Ecosse." The particular strain of cotton marketed as WISICA may be grown in more than one region. Given the optimal climate and conditions the possibilities are probably limited, but it's something to think about.
     
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    "Sea Island" used to refer to cotton grown on the islands off the American Southeastern coast. It was reputed to be among the best in the world. The economics of growing it stopped making sense a long time ago. Recently, within the last decade or so, West Indian growers banded together and formed an association and revived the name as a sort of cross-industry brand. It's very good cotton (shirting cotton, BTW, not knit yarns for sweaters) though most believe it is not as good as the best stuff grown in Egypt and spun and woven in Switzerland or Italy.


    Thanks for the information but I wonder if the conditions on those islands are so good for cotton couldn't they be used to grow rayon or wool?
     
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    Thanks for the information but I wonder if the conditions on those islands are so good for cotton couldn't they be used to grow rayon or wool?
    The climate is not right. You'd need a transparent metal greenhouse to grow those crops.
     
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    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Thanks for the information but I wonder if the conditions on those islands are so good for cotton couldn't they be used to grow rayon or wool?


    Good growing conditions for rayon would probably preclude cotton production. Rayon is a manufactured fiber composed of regenerated cellulose, made by 'converting purified cellulose to xanthate, dissolving the xanthate in dilute caustic soda and then regenerating the cellulose.'
     
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    Good growing conditions for rayon would probably preclude cotton production. Rayon is a manufactured fiber composed of regenerated cellulose, made by 'converting purified cellulose to xanthate, dissolving the xanthate in dilute caustic soda and then regenerating the cellulose.'

    Oh, that doesn't sound very natural!
     
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    Good growing conditions for rayon would probably preclude cotton production. Rayon is a manufactured fiber composed of regenerated cellulose, made by 'converting purified cellulose to xanthate, dissolving the xanthate in dilute caustic soda and then regenerating the cellulose.'
    . . . and let's not even go into the problems with planting crops to grow wool.
     
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    . . . and let's not even go into the problems with planting crops to grow wool.
    Indeed. That's a tricky one.
     
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    The climate is not right. You'd need a transparent metal greenhouse to grow those crops.

    My wife and I have a clear metal greenhouse out back. The refractive porousity of the clear metal makes the plants grow like the dickens.
     
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    . . . and let's not even go into the problems with planting crops to grow wool.

    I understand there's a new cross pollinated wool-rayon plant used for blends.
     
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    Which sea? Which island?
     

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