I had a bottle of this I got in a swap 3-4 years ago. I didn't HATE it, but I found it mostly tuberose with cedar as an afterthought. It left me going "meh," though I wore it a LOT trying to find something to love in it. I didn't find that, and ended up giving the bottle away. For "cedar scents that don't really claim to be cedar scents" you might also try Dolce Vita (Dior.) It's got less tuberose blast, but a sweet, creamy oriental note with a very clear heart of cedar (with a nice hint of cinammon, too!) It's also not a "perfect" scent, but I like it. Voleur de Roses (L'aP) today. I have a tiny little bit left over and will finish it up. I've had 3-4 bottles of this, and it was one of my first niche purchases back in the day (I think it originally came out in the early 1990's?) Anyway, longevity is quite bad but the blend of rose and patchouli I've always found pleasant, with just enough funk/kick to keep it from being boring. I won't be purchasing another bottle, though, because there are too many good ones out there I haven't tried yet. My next "big" purchase will be (down the road) Malle's Portrait of a Lady. I have no interest or desire to drop $300 now on a scent, so "down the road" probably means next year or later. For now, I need to go through at least 100mls of various oriental parfum/extraits before I can justify getting yet another heavy oriental.