Sartorio (Kiton)

[gdl203]

I have a Sartorio sportscoat, which is great. The cut and shoulders are not as soft as Kiton but it has a very nice silhouette. I wouldn't pay anywhere close to retail for it (but then again I wouldn't for any suit makers)

 

[Hengo]

found an article that explains the relationship and difference btw Kiton and Sartorio: http://www.dnrnews.com/site/article.php?id=1213

 

[SuitingStyle]

sorry for the old thread bump

eyeing couple of Satorio items , can ppl who own both Isaia and Sartorio comment on the fit of Satorio compared to Isaia? Slimmer or fuller, specifically compared to Isaia S and V model.

thanks

 

[gdl203]

I'd say it fits pretty much the same as Isaia. I don't know what S and V are but all my Isaia suits fit exactly the same for the same size

 

[Roger]

Originally Posted by iammatt

Why not? Sartotio is comparable to Gianluca Isaia.
Wow, just noticed this thread as I was thinking of purchasing a Sartorio suit. Matt, I think that the comparison with the Gianluca line of Isaia may be a little off. The Gianluca jackets are, I've been told, fused. I doubt very much if the Sartorio line of Kiton has fused jackets (although I'm open to correction on that point). My guess is that the Sartorio line is closer to the top Isaia line than to the Gianluca line.

 

[Roger]

Originally Posted by gdl203

I'd say it fits pretty much the same as Isaia. I don't know what S and V are but all my Isaia suits fit exactly the same for the same size
gdl203, I need to pick your brain for a moment. I'm looking for a new suit. I currently have one Isaia Sirio A suit, which is a very good fit. It sounds from your comments that I could expect an Isaia Enrico model to fit the same; correct? Do you have any experience with the other Isaia models, the Cary, Trent, etc.? I know they differ in some details like the number of trouser pleats, for example, but could I expect the same fit in the jacket with them? I think I've asked this before, but please indulge me!

 

[gdl203]

Originally Posted by Roger

Wow, just noticed this thread as I was thinking of purchasing a Sartorio suit. Matt, I think that the comparison with the Gianluca line of Isaia may be a little off. The Gianluca jackets are, I've been told, fused. I doubt very much if the Sartorio line of Kiton has fused jackets (although I'm open to correction on that point). My guess is that the Sartorio line is closer to the top Isaia line than to the Gianluca line.

"Gianluca Isaia" is different from the "Gianluca line of Isaia"

 

[gdl203]

Originally Posted by Roger

gdl203, I need to pick your brain for a moment. I'm looking for a new suit. I currently have one Isaia Sirio A suit, which is a very good fit. It sounds from your comments that I could expect an Isaia Enrico model to fit the same; correct? Do you have any experience with the other Isaia models, the Cary, Trent, etc.? I know they differ in some details like the number of trouser pleats, for example, but could I expect the same fit in the jacket with them? I think I've asked this before, but please indulge me!

Honestly, I have no idea what the name of my Isaia models are. I probably have 6 Isaia suits and 2 or 3 sports coats. They're in the same size (54L) and the jackets all fit pretty much the same. They generally need a little bit of waist suppression from my tailor but otherwise, they seem to fit the same at the shoulders and chest. All are double vented but I cannot imagine the fit would be different if they were center vented

 

[NorCal_1]

Originally Posted by SuitingStyle

sorry for the old thread bump

eyeing couple of Satorio items , can ppl who own both Isaia and Sartorio comment on the fit of Satorio compared to Isaia? Slimmer or fuller, specifically compared to Isaia S and V model.

thanks



definitely slimmer for the Sartorio and higher quality, imho. Mine looks like a 1930's suit - just stunning

I'm actually going to list a NWT Sartorio in charcoal in 44R for sale in a few days because as spectacular as it, my shoulders are too big after working out and I got an amazing price from remida05 ($480) and want to pass along the good deal to someone who can fit in it

also going to list a 44R Isaia NWT is a great solid brown color (stunning) for $425 or so, so those of you who liked the Kent Wang brown contest should check it out

 

[SuitingStyle]

Originally Posted by NorCal_1

definitely slimmer for the Sartorio and higher quality, imho.

So how much slimmer you would say?

 

[timeless]

Originally Posted by Roger

gdl203, I need to pick your brain for a moment. I'm looking for a new suit. I currently have one Isaia Sirio A suit, which is a very good fit. It sounds from your comments that I could expect an Isaia Enrico model to fit the same; correct? Do you have any experience with the other Isaia models, the Cary, Trent, etc.? I know they differ in some details like the number of trouser pleats, for example, but could I expect the same fit in the jacket with them? I think I've asked this before, but please indulge me!
The Enrico has a stronger more padded shoulder than the Sirio. The Cary that I ahve seems closer to the Sirio.

 

[NorCal_1]

Originally Posted by SuitingStyle

So how much slimmer you would say?


comparing my Isaia ( Sirio model) to the Sartorio, the Sartorio is much slimmer in the body and that's not saying it won't fit, it's just that the shape of the Sartorio is just perfectly slim whereas the Sirio needs more waist suppression

the pants on the Sartorio are also slimmer in profile by quite a bit

hope this helps

 

[Roger]

Originally Posted by gdl203

"Gianluca Isaia" is different from the "Gianluca line of Isaia"
That's true. I assumed when I read Iammatt's post that he was drawing an analogy between Kiton>Sartorio as Isaia>Gianluca line. Maybe I read his post incorrectly, and he was comparing the Sartorio line to the top Isaia line, but it didn't seem like it.

 

[Roger]

Originally Posted by timeless

The Enrico has a stronger more padded shoulder than the Sirio. The Cary that I have seems closer to the Sirio.
That's very helpful, timeless. Is the cut of the Enrico (aside from the shoulders) and the fit like those of the Sirio? And the Cary fits like the Sirio? I'm asking all of this because Pete Testa (Nitr-O) has a number of Isaia suits--although no Sirios.

 

[itsstillmatt]

Originally Posted by Roger

That's true. I assumed when I read Iammatt's post that he was drawing an analogy between Kiton>Sartorio as Isaia>Gianluca line. Maybe I read his post incorrectly, and he was comparing the Sartorio line to the top Isaia line, but it didn't seem like it.

Gdl is right. That said, I was told by the people at Kiton that Sartorio was made in the woman's production which would indicate fusing. Some kiton does include fusing, but not the suits. Either way, it is good quality fusing, so I wouldn't worry about it. My feeling is that the quality difference between kuton and isaia is minimal anyway.